GSG Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 ^^^^^^^ And tons of douchenerds are defending Tesla/Elon to the death - "it was the driver's fault" Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, GSG said: ^^^^^^^ And tons of douchenerds are defending Tesla/Elon to the death - "it was the driver's fault" There needs to be an investigation, but 90+% chance this was driver error. Link to comment
GSG Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, RedDenver said: There needs to be an investigation, but 90+% chance this was driver error. I'm not familiar with how the driverless part works, but if it fails, how is that on the driver? Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, GSG said: I'm not familiar with how the driverless part works, but if it fails, how is that on the driver? Oh, that could entirely be on Tesla. But the brakes are an independent system just like in any other car and should also disengage the autopark (like taping your brakes in cruise control). But if the driver was pressing the brakes I'd expect the car to have stopped or seen smoke coming from the brake pads, so it doesn't add up to me. Based on the limited evidence we have, I'd guess the Tesla didn't park like the driver expected and then the driver hit the accelerator instead of the brakes followed by panicking and pressing the accelerator harder.. That's why there needs to be an investigation. Fortunately, Teslas record their inputs and settings, so there should be a record of what actually happened at least as far as the brakes and accelerator. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just wanted to add that autopark is apparently available with no driver in the car, which I didn't know. If Tesla allows no driver and that was the case here (not sure as the reporting is vague about where the driver was), then 100% this is on Tesla and should come with strong repercussions. 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 10:15 AM, GSG said: I'm not familiar with how the driverless part works, but if it fails, how is that on the driver? Autopilot or self driving "fails" all the time. That's why the disclaimer says you have to be alert and hands on the wheel at all times. With current technology, across the board, software can become confused and disengage at anytime. There's plenty of videos of this from all OEMs. This case could be like the infamous Toyota issues. People hitting the gas instead of the brake. I never saw brake lights come on for the Tesla video. Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Thought we already had these...#FemaleDrviers Zing!!! Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Tesla owners be like "Yeah but now you have a fire...which is energy...which means Elon has created fire" 2 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I read that as "Twitter" 1 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm not sure what the point of this post is as it's not about driverless vehicles. That batteries can catch on fire? I've got really bad news for anyone that drives a car with a gas tank. Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 It is just a bit funny to see dudes that LOVED Musk last year...turn on him now. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, teachercd said: It is just a bit funny to see dudes that LOVED Musk last year...turn on him now. Yep and vice versa. Link to comment
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