Moiraine Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, OTHusker said: I think many have zero problem at all with trump shaking up the gop while I think trump is a buffoon I’m glad he shook up the gop people are sick of party politics and politicians promising things they choose not to deliver on so they can avoid bad press and avoid making unpopular decisions so they can retain their cushy jobs when the gop had the presidency house and senate they made no progress on trimming spending put us into the middle of costly useless wars and nation building let foreign countries take advantage of us on trade fail to call a spade a spade and refusing to call out the bias and corruption of major media and big tech did nothing to put term limits in place many conservatives are sick of the double talk and lack of backbone so sick of it they would hold their nose and vote for someone that is blunt and disruptive sheer frustration for many im no trump supporter- so many things not to like about him and frustrated that his ego, short sightedness and immaturity get in the way of him being effective I understand and can empathize with their frustration I wish Ross Perot was 40 years younger he was the last general election candidate for president that I felt good about voting for What are the ways in which Trump has fixed the things you’re talking about? Most of the things you listed haven’t changed with Trump in charge. And skip the blunt talking part as if it, in itself, helps the country. Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Someone pmd me about why I thought Clinton was a great president while Obama wasnt im all about the results not the person kept us out of needless costly and bloody wars Helped cut spending as percentage of gdp presided over budget surplus welfare rolls cut in half thanks to work and education requirements that became law crime dropped significantly due to additional police, enforcement and punishment measures unemployment at 4 percent was able to work with the gop to get almost all of their contract with America passed- the last time imo that real work and change ever happened in Washington obama i see a very wise and effective communicator that made most of us feel very good about electing someone who was black but he accomplished little of substance and set race relations back 50 years 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, OTHusker said: obama i see a very wise and effective communicator that made most of us feel very good about electing someone who was black but he accomplished little of substance and set race relations back 50 years This is utter B.S. You continue to just make things up. 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Ok so do you really think race relations were better in 2016 or 2008? Before and after Obama race relations are better now? really? under the tutteladge of race hustler/blackmailer al sharpton who met with the president over 55 times in the White House to this day has never apologized or aknowledged his part in the twana Brawley hoax that he orchestrated and was determined to purposely destroy the lives of innocent men for racist political gain and noteriety Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 The us population and Gallup disagree with you on race relations heading south under obama however go ahead and move the goal posts https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Race relations better under/ after Obama? Yes we voted for a black president ( I voted for a black presidential candidate long before Obama) from the bbc quoting cbs poll that showed in 2009 2/3 of Americans thought race relations were good in 2016 2/3 of Americans thought race relations were bad a complete flip https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38536668 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, OTHusker said: Someone pmd me about why I thought Clinton was a great president while Obama wasnt im all about the results not the person kept us out of needless costly and bloody wars Helped cut spending as percentage of gdp presided over budget surplus welfare rolls cut in half thanks to work and education requirements that became law crime dropped significantly due to additional police, enforcement and punishment measures unemployment at 4 percent was able to work with the gop to get almost all of their contract with America passed- the last time imo that real work and change ever happened in Washington obama i see a very wise and effective communicator that made most of us feel very good about electing someone who was black but he accomplished little of substance and set race relations back 50 years What about the economic turnaround that happened under Obama? That for me is a big reason I see Obama as a good president. Bush left Obama with a mess and Obama cleaned that mess up which goes a long way in my book. 2 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: What about the economic turnaround that happened under Obama? That for me is a big reason I see Obama as a good president. Bush left Obama with a mess and Obama cleaned that mess up which goes a long way in my book. Thanks to adding more debt to our books and backs of our children than all previous presidents combined im no fan of either bush Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 10/11/2018 at 12:39 PM, knapplc said: Some of the most assuredly not angry folks who attend Trump rallies. If thugs hunted down and attacked Bernie supporters after his rallies it would be front page news every democrat would be grabbing a microphone every late night host would be crying crocodile tears a national emergency would be called But instead only because these were conservatives being hunted down like animals and attacked by angry mobs, most people have never seen it at all if that doesn’t show media bias I don’t know what does why weren’t these poor victims being trotted out by all the major news media ? in all honesty- be truthful if these were Bernie supporters or Hillary supporters being hunted down- how many tv shows and interviews would the victims get the next day?? I thought freedom of speech and association were bedrock principles we could all get behind? This will be a crickets post for sure 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Landlord said: Russia - this is not a liberal topic. it's a topical topic. Racism - again, not a liberal topic. Trump's Foreign Policy - uhh....not a liberal topic? White Privilege - I'll give you this as a 'liberal topic' but also there is no white privilege thread so wtf you talking about? Trump taking credit where none is due - eh, I guess from a certain vantage point anything critical of Trump is liberal so sure, whatever Trump Fake Wall Emergency - see above Voter Fraud - This isn't a liberal topic. If anything conservatives talk about this way more. But then again, the topic is about real voter fraud not imagined, so maybe that is a liberal topic? Please read my post i clearly stated nearly all the topics were EITHER liberal or bashing trump voter fraud thread was all about the fallacy that there is none from the left it’s all from the right really go right down the list it looks like the daily topic drivel from morning joe on msnbc far from anything remotely balanced 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, OTHusker said: Please read my post i clearly stated nearly all the topics were EITHER liberal or bashing trump voter fraud thread was all about the fallacy that there is none from the left it’s all from the right really go right down the list it looks like the daily topic drivel from morning joe on msnbc far from anything remotely balanced Stick around and balance it out Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Nebf no one is willing to admit that the topics are a tsunami of liberal and anti trump threads that don’t come anywhere close to mirroring where most Nebraskans voted or stand politically its like 9 of 10 topics that was my point i get not everyone lives here ive lived in 6 other states and get those populations and their newspapers (wow- crazy stuff) are different than here that can’t account for a lot I’m guessing it has far more to do with the demographic of those posting on a board like this 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said: What about the economic turnaround that happened under Obama? That for me is a big reason I see Obama as a good president. Bush left Obama with a mess and Obama cleaned that mess up which goes a long way in my book. Obama's going to go down in history as a pretty decent president, responsible for righting the ship after the disaster of Bush's 2nd term. He's going to shine in comparison to the Russian stooge that followed him. And the people who voted for and continue to enable 45 by their overt actions and/or silence will have one of the worst legacies in American history. Some people right here on this board are going to be remembered the way we remember McCarthy or Nixon. But hey, let's keep complaining about those darned libs and their affordable healthcare and their tan suits! <shakes fist at sky> 1 Link to comment
OTHusker Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, knapplc said: Obama's going to go down in history as a pretty decent president, responsible for righting the ship after the disaster of Bush's 2nd term. He's going to shine in comparison to the Russian stooge that followed him. And the people who voted for and continue to enable 45 by their overt actions and/or silence will have one of the worst legacies in American history. Some people right here on this board are going to be remembered the way we remember McCarthy or Nixon. But hey, let's keep complaining about those darned libs and their affordable healthcare and their tan suits! <shakes fist at sky> I think a lot of those screaming Russia Russia Russia are going to go down in history like the clinton haters who had Ken Starr expand his probe to get bill on lying about monica most of America with the exception of the hard right clinton haters, could have cared less just like the clinton haters now look foolish when we look back on this so will the Russia Russia Russia crowd it was wrong then, its wrong now with the exception of the obsessed trump haters and Msbc folks are going to care 10 years from now whats going to be remembered was an expanded probe based on a fake dossier paid for by clinton which paid Russian sources and relied on very scetchy Russians with lots of it proven to be false an fbi that hated trump and was looking for an insurance policy to keep him out It will go down as sour grapes hillary lost because she was a lazy flawed corrupt candidate and a sizable group of Americans got sick of hearing how awful our country is when In reality most of us are caring, loving , fair and hard working folks Russia didn’t swing the election with 100 k In Facebook adds and a few bots theyve always meddled The liberal candidate lost As we’ve all done in past elections we get over it and move on If anything every American should be fearful that the bare knuckle politics and fbi would try an end run to circumvent an election or try and invoke the 25 th amendment in a way it was never intended to be used Like with bill clinton I don’t even like the guy- trump that is but if the shoe was on the other foot this would be playing out much differently as Always 2 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just more wholesome family values from the NRA. Quote NRA Runs Ad Headlined 'Target Practice' Next to Photo of Nancy Pelosi Former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was a victim of gun violence, is also in the ad The National Rifle Association is under fire for running an ad with the headline “Target Practice” next to a photo House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords - who was shot in the head. Link to comment
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