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#1 PaulCrewe

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:10 PM

Before this site gets flooded with the coaching threads, I ask all those that say Bo must go,


Who do all you "football geniouses" think would should come here?

These all better be thought out, reasonable responses. This isn't a "wish list". Think about who is out there, and who you'd pick to fit the "Nebraska" way.


Seriously good luck. I am anxious to see some of the "responses" this crowd has.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM

View PostPaulCrewe, on 19 November 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

Before this site gets flooded with the coaching threads, I ask all those that say Bo must go,


Who do all you "football geniouses" think would should come here?

These all better be thought out, reasonable responses. This isn't a "wish list". Think about who is out there, and who you'd pick to fit the "Nebraska" way.


Seriously good luck. I am anxious to see some of the "responses" this crowd has.


As ive stated before, the coaching staff in whole arent getting that great of players. Let me ask you this, IF this type of play continues or 2-3 years would you still want him as our coach? Im not saying fire him, we need to give him a few years but if this does change and we keep going 10-4 then he has to go.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:14 PM

Maybe I am just venting but by the way our team has performed the past two years, I honestly think Bo and his staff have peaked here at Nebraska. What do I mean by "peaked"? It seems that we are not going to "turn the corner". Does this have to do with the talent of players we have been recruiting the past 4 years? I honestly don't know but I know one thing...We have been getting out coached and as of late, out played by other coaches with equal or less talent. That is the red flag I see being waved high above Lincoln and I don't mean the one with the big N on it either.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM

Bo doesn't need to go, I think the schemes are there. We need to get a solid recruiting class and Bubba needs to come....NOW!!!!!

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM

View PostBlackshirtsguru, on 19 November 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

It's not hard to figure out. By the way our team has performed the past two years, I honestly think Bo and his staff have peaked here at Nebraska. Just my two cents in the matter.


You didn't answer his question. This group obviously wants Bo out--so they obviously must have someone in their collective minds who can replace him
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!


It's a lower percentage of wins, though. Osborne played one or two fewer games every year.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:19 PM

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.


I still can't understand why Leach doesn't have a gig. Huskernation would mass cardiac arrest if he was ever the coach here. They couldn't hand his style.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:19 PM

even Callahan beat Michigan for whatever it is worth.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:20 PM

I want to keep Bo, but hire Mike Stoops as Co-DC. Thats it.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:21 PM

View Postgobiggergoredder, on 19 November 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.


I still can't understand why Leach doesn't have a gig. Huskernation would mass cardiac arrest if he was ever the coach here. They couldn't hand his style.


When you sue your former employer, then that makes any potential employers a little scared to hire you from that point on.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM

View PostStumpy1, on 19 November 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

I want to keep Bo, but hire Mike Stoops as Co-DC. Thats it.


I think that part is almost a given with Carl getting shown the door.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

View Postgobiggergoredder, on 19 November 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.


I still can't understand why Leach doesn't have a gig. Huskernation would mass cardiac arrest if he was ever the coach here. They couldn't hand his style.


When you sue your former employer, then that makes any potential employers a little scared to hire you from that point on.


They fired him a day before he was to get a huge bonus. You wouldn't sue?
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino

For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two guys wouldn't fit that "criteria"
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:23 PM

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.


I'd still take Bo over Leach or Mangino...

What I don't get is why some people can't manage to be disappointed in the head coach and in the season as a whole without wanting him fired. I'm disappointed in Bo right now, and this season has been a disappointment so far (even though we've still got a 3-1 record against MSU, PSU, OSU, and UM, which is pretty good), but I'm no where close to thinking he should be fired. The team took a big step backwards today, but firing Bo would be taking 10 big steps backwards.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:23 PM

View PostStumpy1, on 19 November 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

I want to keep Bo, but hire Mike Stoops as Co-DC. Thats it.


They should hire Stoops if they can get him this offseason.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:23 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!

what's UNBELIEVABLE is the fact that your are automatically counting the Iowa game as a victory!
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:24 PM

Isn't this Bo's first head coaching position? So, like plenty of other coaches, isn't he going to go through some sort of learning curve that maturates his abilities to balance recruiting, delegation, overall program management, position coach management and so on?

Almost forgot...given the OP query...I don't see anyone on the college football landscape that we could pull in here right now. I know there are concerns, but appearances of instability resulting from turnover may be more damaging long-term than we can appreciate in the moment.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:24 PM

View Postgobiggergoredder, on 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

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View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino


The question becomes, will they be willing to come here when Bo has made it to a bowl game each year he's been here, won a minimum of 8 games (and likely nine) every year, and yet we still fired him?

The answer is "no." No good coach is coming in here after firing their predecessor who has that kind of record.

Bo is also 3-1 coaching bowl games. Again, you don't get solid replacements to come in after you fire that guy.


I still can't understand why Leach doesn't have a gig. Huskernation would mass cardiac arrest if he was ever the coach here. They couldn't hand his style.


When you sue your former employer, then that makes any potential employers a little scared to hire you from that point on.


They fired him a day before he was to get a huge bonus. You wouldn't sue?


I didn't say he was wrong in suing them, but if you look at it from an empoyer's point of view with what happened at TTU with how he treated the players, then you can see why other schools would be hesitant to hire him.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:24 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!


I liken it to the Solich era. It wasn't the amount of losses, it was the blowout losses and losses to teams we shouldn't be losing to. I never mind losing a hard fought game, but if we are losing by 3 touchdowns or more watching an utterly pathetic meltdown, that frankly pisses me off. 9-3 aint so bad if we are at least competing in the games and not being absolutely embarressed.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

The ratio is different for Bo and Tom.

I do not want Bo gone, but I want teams that are prepared, that live to play with the N on their helmets. I want kids recruited year around, and I want those top kids recruited to play, not just burned red shirts for two or three plays a year. I want a vision of what Nebraska football is and where it is headed, so we can recruit the type of players we need.

Comment was made we do not have the players to stop a mobile QB. Who is to blame for that. Our bend but not break is not working very well against top teams.

At least we do not have to worry about the BCS whipping that was on the door step. One horrendous ass beating on TV this late in the season is enough.

Hiring a head coach with no head coaching experience was the main mistake I think. I think Bo is learning and with more help from Tom, he may turn the corner.

But my only chant is that Bo and his staff are responsible for where we are at, no one else, not the players.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM

View Postskersfan, on 19 November 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

The ratio is different for Bo and Tom.

I do not want Bo gone, but I want teams that are prepared, that live to play with the N on their helmets. I want kids recruited year around, and I want those top kids recruited to plays, not just burned red shirts for two or three plays a year. I want a vision of what Nebraska football is and where it is headed, so we can recruit the type of players we need.

Comment was made we do not have the players to stop a mobile QB. Who is to blame for that. Our bend but not break is not working very well against top teams.

At least we do not have to worry about the BCS whipping that was on the door step. One horrendous ass beating on TV this late in the season is enough.

Hiring a head coach with no head coaching experience was the main mistake I think. I think Bo is learning and with more help from Tom, he may turn the corner.

But my only chant is that Bo and his staff is responsible for where we are at, no one else, not the players.


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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM

View PostPaulCrewe, on 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino

For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two guys wouldn't fit that "criteria"


I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:32 PM

9 wins is one thing when you're going 9-2. 9-4 is a much different animal. Speaking of geniuses. You should would not be satisfied with the team's lack of discipline and character no matter how much you enjoy getting embarrassed twice on national television.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:32 PM

View Postensanehusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!


I liken it to the Solich era. It wasn't the amount of losses, it was the blowout losses and losses to teams we shouldn't be losing to. I never mind losing a hard fought game, but if we are losing by 3 touchdowns or more watching an utterly pathetic meltdown, that frankly pisses me off. 9-3 aint so bad if we are at least competing in the games and not being absolutely embarressed.


Bo is getting to play one extra game each year against a Div 1-AA school. It's not that hard to figure out. NU has one quality win this year in MSU. All of our other wins are against bad teams or a team that had thier heart ripped out the week before our game in PSU. And all three of our losses are embarrassing. Two blowouts on the road and a loss to a crappy team at home that had just lost 5 games in a row.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:32 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!


You also realize that TO's teams finised in the top 10 his first few years, right? In TO's first year we lost to missouri 12-13 and lost to oklahoma but TO also beat #10 UCLA, #14 NC STATE, #8 kansas, #17 colorado, #8 texas. In his second year we beat #13 kansas and #18 florida and finished in top 10. In his third year, we finished #6 with the wins coming at scores 10-7, 45-0, 56-14, 31-16, 16-0, 28-20, 63-21, 30-7, 12-0, 52-0. We got embarrassed by oklahoma but lost by 3 to #8 arizona state in the bowl game. Beat #13 oklahoma state and #9 texas tech in his fourth year but finished 13.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!


TO also never lost 4 games in a season. Something Bo Pelini has done every one of his years so far. Not saying Bo should go that is just a poor comparison. Bo gets more games than TO did.

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View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM

View PostPaulCrewe, on 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino

For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two one guy wouldn't fit that "criteria"

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM

Washington was a quality win, and so was Ohio State; and, we beat Penn State, which makes for two wins against highly ranked teams.

Only way I can see Bo going is if the team has some complete meltdown and he loses the team completely. I want Bo to stay, I just don't see him leaving. If he does leave, it will be in the unfortunate circumstance that we've completely imploded and nobody wants that to happen.

If it does, knock on wood, I think Boise's HC, Chris Peterson, would be the best option for us.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:34 PM

WE NEED T.O. BACK!! I MEAN AFTER ALL HE CAME IN ON THE COATTAILS OF DEVANEY AND INSTANTLY OUR TEAM WAS GREAT AND WON 3 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS! RIGHT, GUISE?


... I mean that is what happened, right? That's how this "building a program" works? Come in, win a national championship right away or you need to be fired?

He's rebuilding an elite program. They could go 9-4 or 10-3 this year and return nearly 20 starters for next year. But yeah, national championship or bust!!! ASKDJALK
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:36 PM

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Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino

For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two guys wouldn't fit that "criteria"


I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


I present to you the years 2009 and 2010. And you've given us one year to adjust to the Big Ten, that's fair.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:36 PM

If it were up to me I'd give him at least three more years, as long as he keeps getting 9-10 wins. He wasn't dealt the easiest hand with the conference switch.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:37 PM

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.


By then Michigan will be a top 10 team and we will still have walk ons starting. It won't matter, NU still wont' win the division.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:37 PM

View PostNU5XChamps, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

We will end up with 9 wins again this year. Why was that an exceptable win total for TO but not BO??? UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!

Tom played less games then Bo did per year. How many 4 loss seasons did Tom have? Heck how many 3 loss seasons did Tom have? I know there were a few.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

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View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.


By then Michigan will be a top 10 team and we will still have walk ons starting. It won't matter, NU still wont' win the division.


How can you make that judgement? Edit: Sorry, how do you come to that judgement?
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

By then Michigan will be a top 10 team and we will still have walk ons starting. It won't matter, NU still wont' win the division.


So your glass is not only NOT half full, it's empty, with a film of dust at the bottom?

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM

View Postzoogies, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Washington was a quality win, and so was Ohio State; and, we beat Penn State, which makes for two wins against highly ranked teams.

Only way I can see Bo going is if the team has some complete meltdown and he loses the team completely. I want Bo to stay, I just don't see him leaving. If he does leave, it will be in the unfortunate circumstance that we've completely imploded and nobody wants that to happen.

If it does, knock on wood, I think Boise's HC, Chris Peterson, would be the best option for us.

Washington isnt that great of a team. They have lost 4 games, almost lost to division 2 eastern washington, only won by 8 against hawaii and cal who also arent good. Ohio State lost to purde and ohio state didnt have their best players against us. Penn State hasnt played anyone. Michigan State has been our only quality win, imo.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:39 PM

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

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I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.

What is sad is the Big 10 is down this year and still could not do it. I am scared I will start thinking like Big ten people and the roses as the almighty bowl.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:39 PM

View Posthuskerfan333157, on 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

View Postzoogies, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Washington was a quality win, and so was Ohio State; and, we beat Penn State, which makes for two wins against highly ranked teams.

Only way I can see Bo going is if the team has some complete meltdown and he loses the team completely. I want Bo to stay, I just don't see him leaving. If he does leave, it will be in the unfortunate circumstance that we've completely imploded and nobody wants that to happen.

If it does, knock on wood, I think Boise's HC, Chris Peterson, would be the best option for us.

Washington isnt that great of a team. They have lost 4 games, almost lost to division 2 eastern washington, only won by 8 against hawaii and cal who also arent good. Ohio State lost to purde and ohio state didnt have their best players against us. Penn State hasnt played anyone. Michigan State has been our only quality win, imo.


Ohio State also beat Wisconsin
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:39 PM

Seriously, this is the same crowd that was saying we had a "Brutal" schedule in 2011 and 2012 and that we weren't getting any favors from the BI0. Now your saying we didn't play anybody. AMAZING!!!! We played the best that the B10 could put in front of us and we have done pretty good.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:40 PM

View PostBye Bye Big XII, on 19 November 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

View PostPaulCrewe, on 19 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostHaspula, on 19 November 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now


Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino

For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two guys wouldn't fit that "criteria"


I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


I present to you the years 2009 and 2010. And you've given us one year to adjust to the Big Ten, that's fair.


Nice Boexcuse there. They also had to adjust to us too. But it's not hard to adjust to a team that lacks discipline and isn't prepared to play the majority of their schedule.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:40 PM

View Postmiamihrrcns2001, on 19 November 2011 - 03:34 PM, said:

WE NEED T.O. BACK!! I MEAN AFTER ALL HE CAME IN ON THE COATTAILS OF DEVANEY AND INSTANTLY OUR TEAM WAS GREAT AND WON 3 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS! RIGHT, GUISE?


... I mean that is what happened, right? That's how this "building a program" works? Come in, win a national championship right away or you need to be fired?

He's rebuilding an elite program. They could go 9-4 or 10-3 this year and return nearly 20 starters for next year. But yeah, national championship or bust!!! ASKDJALK

Its how the team has looked and the fact our defense will be worse next year. He needs to work on his recruiting but if this continues for two or three more years then he needs to be gone.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:41 PM

The only guy I would take over Bo is Urban Meyer.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:41 PM

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Thats what i've been saying. All the great coaches are coaching great teams. Its hard to find someone that could replace Bo right now
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Short list of unemployed coaches:

Urban Meyer
Mike Leach
Mark Mangino
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For your short list knapp.

Meyer-no way. He freaked about firing Frank after a 9 win season, and look at Bo's win total so far.
Leach and Mangino- they both would be chastized by this conservative state after their pasts, and hence knowing these two names would come up I threw in the "nebraska way" because every genious on here wants to get back to the 90's . ANd these two guys wouldn't fit that "criteria"
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I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.
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I present to you the years 2009 and 2010. And you've given us one year to adjust to the Big Ten, that's fair.
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Nice Boexcuse there. They also had to adjust to us too. But it's not hard to adjust to a team that lacks discipline and isn't prepared to play the majority of their schedule.
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Difference here: 11 teams adjusting to 1 team vs. 1 team adjusting to 11 teams. Do the math
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

View Postakita, on 19 November 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.

What is sad is the Big 10 is down this year and still could not do it. I am scared I will start thinking like Big ten people and the roses as the almighty bowl.

I get that, but remember that this is the first year Beck is an OC. It's our first time in the Big Ten, and we are completely unfamiliar with both the teams we are playing and with the venues we're playing in. We're also unfamiliar with the officiating, and it's pretty clear we're getting no breaks from the officials so far.

Lots of stuff against us right now. Hopefully time fixes many of those things, and does so quickly. If not, it's time for the torches and pitchforks.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

View PostBye Bye Big XII, on 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

View Postknapplc, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostAFhusker, on 19 November 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think anyone is trying to "go back to the 1990's" but people want a team that competes for conference titles and that isn't happening right now. We are not in the crappy Big 12 north and winning the division isn't a given. I know I personally don't give a rat's ass about "the Nebraska way" because that way is dead. People need to realize that TO didn't have any assistants that are good enough to win at a school like NU and that era is over.


We are not in the Big XII North, we are in the winnable Legends division. It's a tougher division, but we can compete and win it... but we could also have used a break from the Big Ten Brass on the schedule.

Pitting Nebraska against the very best teams the Big Ten can muster in each of its first two years isn't fair. We're the n00bs, so we have to run the gauntlet. This year has been an emotional roller coaster, and many of the players are out of gas right now. Add in injuries and NO WEEKS OFF, and you have... this.

Not making excuses. Just saying it is what it is.

When 2013 rolls around and our SOS drops in half, we'll likely see very different results.


By then Michigan will be a top 10 team and we will still have walk ons starting. It won't matter, NU still wont' win the division.


How can you make that judgement? Edit: Sorry, how do you come to that judgement?


Look at the recruiting class that UM is bringing in and how good Hoke has them playing now with the limited talent that they have now. Then look at our coaches have only used 25 of our 55 allotted visits and it's not hard to see who is going to bring in the better players. This staff just doesn't take recruiting seriously enough and it's already showing.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:43 PM

View PostBye Bye Big XII, on 19 November 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

View Posthuskerfan333157, on 19 November 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

View Postzoogies, on 19 November 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Washington was a quality win, and so was Ohio State; and, we beat Penn State, which makes for two wins against highly ranked teams.

Only way I can see Bo going is if the team has some complete meltdown and he loses the team completely. I want Bo to stay, I just don't see him leaving. If he does leave, it will be in the unfortunate circumstance that we've completely imploded and nobody wants that to happen.

If it does, knock on wood, I think Boise's HC, Chris Peterson, would be the best option for us.

Washington isnt that great of a team. They have lost 4 games, almost lost to division 2 eastern washington, only won by 8 against hawaii and cal who also arent good. Ohio State lost to purde and ohio state didnt have their best players against us. Penn State hasnt played anyone. Michigan State has been our only quality win, imo.


Ohio State also beat Wisconsin


And lost to Purdue and Miami. Which makes us look that much worse by getting our asses handed to us by them.





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