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My bad! For some reason I didn't think he was.

He's listed as number 1 on the depth chart.

Wasn't Wandale listed at the top of the depth chart today?

Just going to put out a suggestion that folks chill on calling the kid dumb or making fun of his grades. We get that it's an issue.

Because you don't build a program by acting impulsively and focusing on one season at a time. There's a concept called delay discounting, which is essentially a way of looking at how big of a difference in reward do you need to push back when you would receive it. The easiest way to look at it is is time x money. So would you prefer a dollar now or 10 dollars next week. You can manipulate both the time and money components of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_preference or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification So for lack of a better index, think of this like madden ratings for the players. Lets imagine player 1 is a 78 (a senior with no redshirt to burn) and player 2 is a 79 (a Freshmen with a redshirt to burn). Would you rather have the change in 1 improvement now or another season when the freshmen is at their best (maybe an 89 Senior) but that's 4 seasons away? The team is essentially doing this math based on the differences between players now, how they project the players, the current other depth on the roster, etc. It's easy for us as fans to say start the best player no matter what. Personally, I'd rather have the best product a few years from now.

I'm talking without any specific knowledge, but this could be one of the problems with recruiting winners. Some people like winning more than they like competing. A lot of these kids may know how to win, but they don't necessarily know how to lose. Depending on the message these kids have received about winning and losing, it makes sense that some of them are phoning it in. My specialty isn't in sports psychology, but looking at their training and dissertations, I have some reservations about our sports psychologists. We pay a lot of attention to our strength program, but I think gains could be made on the psychology side of the program. I also think this has been true for a long time. I see this with fans to a degree. Team isn't winning, they're not a fan. Sometimes you gotta look at the long game and focus on not just reacting in the moment.

I'm not great at evaluating line play, so this is more of me synthesizing what I read and combining that with the eye test. My understanding is that ideally M. Farniok would move to a guard position. I'm with you though, there doesn't seem to be depth and the guys that I remember being excited about when Riley was around don't seem to have panned out.

You're probably right here. That's my bad. I think Turner C. is likely our LT of the future.

I think there's still some math out there. If everything falls perfectly, we're still not out of the B1G west yet. That means it is possible that we have 7 more games. Assuming the tFR are better than what we have, that means you're probably looking at them playing against Wisconsin, Iowa, B1G and Bowl. As things get mathamatically taken off the table, I imagine seeing more fluidity. It's also possible that WI is just penned in as a loss in which case you might see some action against weaker opponents with better lines in order to ensure wins. If I'm a coach, I've got to imagine that MN has a minimum of 2 losses of their schedule with another possible loss to Iowa. If Iowa loses to OSU and we somehow manage to beat them, they're a 2 loss team with us owning the head to head. There's math on the table and I hope the staff isn't going to just start reacting. I'd also be willing to tank this season in the name of having a starting LT for one more year in BB.

I'll also follow-up and say, I'm all for shuffling up etc, but I'm anti burning any red-shirts. HCSF is playing a game where he can't be so bad that we lose support or become apathetic, but he has to be doing everything he can to play for the future. IMO Wandale is playing now because he wouldn't have come here if we didn't play him. We're doing everything we can to not burn redshirts.

I'm right there with you and have been saying this since fairly early in the season. Right now our line is young, undersized, and playing out of position. Our line: Jaimes: 6'5" 250 Nixon: 6'4" 260 Jurgens: 6'4" 245 Wilson: 6'3" 295 Farniok: 6'6" 310 Here's what we have in the wings(out of HS): Benhart: 6'9" 287 Michael Lynn: 6'6" 291 Brent Banks: 6'7" 265 Matthew Anderson: 6'6" 260 Jimmy Fritzsche 6'7" 240 Corcoran (in theory) 6'6" 280 You think our staff didn't realize that we weren't in a good place? These guys need to get in the weight room, learn, etc. but we're red-shirting so that they can have the team they need. Jaimes didn't burn his RS because he was that good IMO, we had no other feasible options. We also didn't get our Juco that we wanted last year. This was always going to be the problem spot. IMO, next year there's going to be a lot of unrest on the line with the young guys getting player time earlier than we want just because they have the right bodies. I don't know if it's going to be a whole heck of a lot better if that's the case because I like older players no the OL. DL should be a little better because the roster management issues weren't quite as bad and we landed some JUCO help. We're not there yet guys and I don't think HCSF suddenly forgot how to coach. I think he know's we're limited with the players we have. The good news is, the staff is going out and getting guys, skill players look great, we're getting our Linemen, our secondary is good. I think what we need to see is our LBs and TEs step up and we'll be hitting full stride in about 2 years. This will be ideal timing (IMO) as we will have just opened some amazing new facilities. Frost knew it was a rebuild, remember that this is why he asked for a long starting contract, he needed the security for the rebuild. We're on the right track, it just hurts getting there.

Eesh, thanks for the correction. I'm getting old and time's getting away from me. That's my bad yall.

247 had him as a first rounder as well. Not a bad way to get the streak started back up again, but I don't love the thought of anyone on the team leaving early right now. Edit: I'm dumb, he's a senior

I have a hard time how anyone could watch the game and blame AM. Thanks for posting some of these tweets.

For games like this, I remind myself of what the coaches and AD were saying before the season. The language I remember hearing was about making a bowl, I think they're pretty honest with themselves and where the team is at. That said, I think this all needs to be taken in context. Look at our 2 deep. How many of those guys are transfers or Tr/rFR/SO? On offense: 3 of 6 WR, 3/12 linemen, our top 2 qb, our top 2 RB. On the whole O, we have 2 seniors in the two deep and they play at the same position, Noa and Mike Williams. On D, it's a little better. 1/6 linemen, 3/8 LB, 4/8 in the secondary. Lots more seniors in the two deep on that side too, 8 players total with 6 starting. The numbers for tOSU have more guys in year 2 or less in the system as backups and it's still somewhat limited: 8 on offense, they're all at number 2 except fields, 6 on D, all at number 2. They also roughly kept the same system. My point is this, getting hammered like we did sucks. It's also not the most surprising thing ever. We've got a young team, seniors that are adjusting to the system, and guys playing out of position (looking at our tackles) because we just didn't have the talent. I'm optimistic, but it's going to take time. When we've been starting young guys, it feels more like we're starting because our older players just weren't good enough. When you look at a team like tOSU, the only young guys they're starting are one's that start because they're that good. The Huskers need time to develop, we're still going to take our lumps for a year or two (IMO). All I see from this game is that we're not quite there yet and I knew that. Our team right now is all potential and potential is frustrating. When everything goes right, we're going to look really good, but it's going to be inconsistent. I think things start getting interesting next season and start really clicking year 4.

Alright folks, I just cleaned up three pages worth of people arguing at an individual level and only vaguely staying on topic. If you want to argue about personal characteristics or what is flawed with one another, take it to the shed. This topic is going to stay on Mo.

This was the exact same conclusion I came to. I think that in looking at our team, it is very possible that if the OL develops over the course of the season and we're not hit hard by injuries we have a chance at only losing to tOSU. I'm curious how our DL sets up against Wisconsin's OL.

Crew cuts for everyone! No individual identity, just football playing robots.

The line play is rough. If you have the heart for it, rewatch our games so far and focus just on the OL. IMO if you do this, you'll see why the offense isn't doing what's needed. To add to that, we then end up taxing our D. Given enough reps, the D is going to make mistakes, that's what happened against CU in my opinion.

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I was ok with the rushing game. I'm with you, I'm not fully understanding Mills role in the offense. He doesn't seem to have the vision I would want. I feel like he'll get us 3 yards and call it a day. For me the problem seems to be that if JD goes quiet, the passing game disappears. I'm not sure where to go from here, but I think it's going to be a long season if we are stubborn about sticking with Mills and no one else steps up at WR.

Would love for this to be the start of a nice little revenge tour. Just want to see the foot on the throat the whole game.