carlfense Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Quote Link to comment
bbeerma2 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. We're two decommits short of an amazing class. We will pull in bigger fish before it's all said and done, especially if we can run up Oklahoma. Quote Link to comment
Axl_sued_me Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Quote Link to comment
Blackshirtsguru Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Quote Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. We're two decommits short of an amazing class. We will pull in bigger fish before it's all said and done, especially if we can run up Oklahoma. Run up the score on Oklahoma? Please tell me that's not what you mean. Quote Link to comment
carlfense Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Exactly. I'll take successful college football players over pure athletes/pro types any day. See Frazier, Tommie. Edit: Frazier might not be the example I am looking for because he was an amazing athlete. The point I was trying to make is that numbers of players drafted is a pretty terrible indicator of how successfully they played in college. Quick example: would you rather have Josh Freeman last year or Joe Ganz? I'd take Ganz in a heartbeat . . . but Freeman got drafted. I guess my anti-NFL bias is showing. Quote Link to comment
AndyDufresne Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Weird time period that you chose, as they have both won one title each in the last 15 years. Looking at the last 4 years, Nebraska has a better winning percentage than either Florida State or Miami while playing in a tougher conference. Quote Link to comment
Ohio Pete Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Miami vs Florida State was a wildly entertaining game because neither team is apparently able to play defense despite the fact that both offenses were running the same bubble screen they've used for the past 20 years. Despite their superior athletes, they could not win the ACC which is among the worst conferences in the BCS. Coaching? FSU has had the same coach for 30 years. I am not going to worry about their recruiting until they start winning games, especially since whoever doesn't make to 2 deep in Miami will be available as a free agent. Quote Link to comment
Ohio Pete Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 And actually: The pipeline from Florida State to the NFL has sprung a leak. The Seminoles had an ACC-best 45 players in the NFL in 2006, one more than Miami, but has subsequently dropped to 43 (in '07), then 39 last season and 30 today. The Noles have seen stalwarts such as linebacker Derrick Brooks, running back Warrick Dunn, defensive tackle Corey Simon and quarterback Brad Johnson leave the NFL in the past three years, while adding only two players -- defensive end Everette Brown and wide receiver Michael Ray Garvin -- to this rookie crop. It's no coincidence that FSU's record has fallen with less NFL-caliber talent on campus. Point of comparison, UNC has 24 players in the NFL. Quote Link to comment
Ohio Pete Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Now let's be clear. I am not saying that Nebraska does not need to improve its talent level in order to compete for a national title. Nor am I suggesting that Nebraska has as much team speed as Miami or Florida State. I am saying don't hold up Miami and FSU as any indication of where Nebraska needs to go because before I get 4.3 40 wide receiver I want a good QB, something those schools have been missing for the last few years. Quote Link to comment
Axl_sued_me Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Exactly. I'll take successful college football players over pure athletes/pro types any day. See Frazier, Tommie. Edit: Frazier might not be the example I am looking for because he was an amazing athlete. The point I was trying to make is that numbers of players drafted is a pretty terrible indicator of how successfully they played in college. Quick example: would you rather have Josh Freeman last year or Joe Ganz? I'd take Ganz in a heartbeat . . . but Freeman got drafted. I guess my anti-NFL bias is showing. That's a cop out Carl. And Tommie would of made it to the NFL if it wasn't for blood clots. And Josh Freeman > Joe Ganz. He was on a horrible team. Quote Link to comment
carlfense Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Exactly. I'll take successful college football players over pure athletes/pro types any day. See Frazier, Tommie. Edit: Frazier might not be the example I am looking for because he was an amazing athlete. The point I was trying to make is that numbers of players drafted is a pretty terrible indicator of how successfully they played in college. Quick example: would you rather have Josh Freeman last year or Joe Ganz? I'd take Ganz in a heartbeat . . . but Freeman got drafted. I guess my anti-NFL bias is showing. That's a cop out Carl. And Tommie would of made it to the NFL if it wasn't for blood clots. And Josh Freeman > Joe Ganz. He was on a horrible team. Disagree. Josh Freeman might have exceeded Joe Ganz in every physical category, but Joe Ganz had "it" where it matters most for a college qb: between the ears. Freeman had no mental toughness, no scrappy-ness. I don't think I ever saw Freeman make something out of nothing. And, no. I don't think Tommie was ever going to be an NFL qb. Bloodclots or no bloodclots, he didn't have the throwing ability to draw NFL attention. Quote Link to comment
AndyDufresne Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Our recruiting class is decent so far, but I think we can all agree it could be better. And if you don't think FSU/Miami are stock full of talent you're blind. They are very, very athletic. The important thing is that hopefully our class gets better over the years until we're competing with the best. "Athlete" does not always translate to "football player." Is that why FSU and Miami sends their players in BOATS to the NFL year after year?? Yet...how many title's have they won in the past 15 years? Your last comment made absolutely no sense when it come's to winning in college football! Exactly. I'll take successful college football players over pure athletes/pro types any day. See Frazier, Tommie. Edit: Frazier might not be the example I am looking for because he was an amazing athlete. The point I was trying to make is that numbers of players drafted is a pretty terrible indicator of how successfully they played in college. Quick example: would you rather have Josh Freeman last year or Joe Ganz? I'd take Ganz in a heartbeat . . . but Freeman got drafted. I guess my anti-NFL bias is showing. That's a cop out Carl. And Tommie would of made it to the NFL if it wasn't for blood clots. And Josh Freeman > Joe Ganz. He was on a horrible team. By what measure is Freeman a better college QB than Joey? 2008 stats Ganz 67.8% completion percentage 3,565 yards passing 25 TD's 11 Int's 153.69 QB rating Freeman 58.6% completion percentage 2,945 passing yards 20 TD's 8 Int's 136.49 QB rating Even when Freeman had all-American Jordy Nelson to throw to, he never approached Joe's completion percentage or QB rating. Sure Josh is taller and has a stronger arm, but that alone certainly doesn't make for a very good college QB. So I call BS on this assessment. Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Freeman will be a bust in the NFL.........write it down. Jamarcus Russell is struggling and he had twice the career at LSU, Freeman is garbage. Quote Link to comment
Danimal Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Freeman will be a bust in the NFL.........write it down. Jamarcus Russell is struggling and he had twice the career at LSU, Freeman is garbage. I never understood the JaMarcus hype, he wasn't that great in college. I'd have traded-down. Quote Link to comment
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