irafreak Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 We need to get away from the horizontal passes, OU will stop them from going far at all and will likely get a pick-six like we saw Saturday. We need to go vertical more, make them pay for crowding the box and/or loosen them up. We also need to go back to using McNeil and the TE's in-general, McNeil is hands-down our best receiver, use him for piss-sakes. We also need to make the most of CG's wheels, especially with our rb-corps ailing so much. Roll him out, run bootlegs, run qb-draws, and use the freaking qb-sneak in short-yardage. Here's what I don't get, these things we are talking about are soooo painfully obvious. We see it, I garantee other D-coordinators see it and are laughing their collective a$$es off about it. Yes, we have injuries, yes because of that our offense in very young and inexperienced. So, why do we (Watson) put them behind the eight ball with these stupid plays that have proven not to work. Again, a good coach plays to his players strengths (GIVE GREEN THE CHANCE TO DO WHAT HE DOES BEST). We saw a small glimpse of this in the first half of last weeks game and guess what, crazy enough, it was working. Also, Watson needs to learn to adjust as the defense adjust's to us. Anyway, if Watson is so great, why do we see the same crazy play calling week in and week out? I bet OU's defense is just WAITING for us to throw another horizontal pass, dejavu of last year's pick six!!! Remeber the tail end of that 07 season when NU was leading Texas and it wasn't until the 4th quarter down a couple scores that the texas OC finally ran that blasted zone read after NU had been burned by it all season long everygame? Sometimes coaches just out think themselves. Quote Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 no stupid shotgun options thats bout is stupid as the little screen to the rb all game Dose stupid shotgun options bout what Cody wasd done brung into ran. His made his livin oft dose typest plays hist hole car-ear playing da football. Dose and dem bubbled screens. Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'd rather see Green run it 30 times than throw it that many. Maybe that should be the game plan. Should OU go up 10-0 quickly, then the panic sits in and goodbye run game. Quote Link to comment
macroboy Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I agree. Since it was just a month ago that he only knew 17 plays I think we should just let him make stuff up in the huddle. "you go over here, and you block that guy, and I'm gonna pitch it to you and you throw it back to me right before they tackle you!" Ready! break!! Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I agree. Since it was just a month ago that he only knew 17 plays I think we should just let him make stuff up in the huddle. "you go over here, and you block that guy, and I'm gonna pitch it to you and you throw it back to me right before they tackle you!" Ready! break!! Sounds good to me! Quote Link to comment
clone Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 once again. folks think the coaches are deliberately undermining _________________ (insert player, team, fans). first they weren't playing the right guy. now that they are, they aren't giving him the right plays. HELLO!! their jobs, their reputations and their sanity lie in VICTORY!! why on earth do some of you think the coaches aren't playing the players they think can WIN?? why on earth do some of you think they would give green LESS than he's capable of?? just maybe, they gave him "training wheels" for a reason?? seriously. Quote Link to comment
clone Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 question: do you think Bo and Wats are deliberately trying to lose?? why on earth would anyone think they would give green LESS playbook to work with than he's capable of?? what is their motivation for not letting him loose?? letting the thoroughbred run, etc.,etc.,etc. do you seriously think either Bo or Watson WANT green to fail??? or the team?? just maybe, they gave him "training wheels" for a reason. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Vince i forgot.... Quote Link to comment
westgatehusker Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 question: do you think Bo and Wats are deliberately trying to lose?? why on earth would anyone think they would give green LESS playbook to work with than he's capable of?? what is their motivation for not letting him loose?? letting the thoroughbred run, etc.,etc.,etc. do you seriously think either Bo or Watson WANT green to fail??? or the team?? just maybe, they gave him "training wheels" for a reason. Shatel's point is that "training wheels" shouldn't be required. If you need to be a 4th or 5th year qb to run the offense, than it is too complicated. No, obviously no one is stupid enough to think that Wats or Bo want Green to fail, but you can desire to succeed and still fail. It's not about wanting or not wanting him to fail, it's about putting him in a position where he can succeed. Please don't ask questions you know the answers to. It's a waste of everyone's time. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I still think Shatel's an idiot. What was that last idiotic thing he posted a couple weeks ago? Some guys just aren't as ready as others. Zac Taylor came in and ran it from day 1. Freshman QBs USUALLY aren't ready for this type of gig, and Green is not Matt Barkley. Green's HS offense was not real complicated and that's a bigger reason I think than our offensive 'complexity'. Even when true frosh start elsewhere the playbook is often simplified to accomodate them - just as we have done. And gradually they progress and are able to do more things in the offense. I think the whole "complexity of our offense" thing is pretty overblown. What do you want, an offense where you can throw any scrub in at QB and expect him to perform? I guess Mike Leach has done that. Other than that though? Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I thought training wheels were for practices, and by game time they were no longer needed. Quote Link to comment
WCHusker Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Shatel is a wanna be know it all babbling f'ing gasbag. Watson may or may not be an idiot-but when it comes down to it, Bo calls the shots, because it's his rear end that gets the heat. Quote Link to comment
HuskerT Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 This offense requires too much precision and leaves too little room for error. But don't tell many on the board this because Watson is a genius and we will be lucky to get him back next year. Watson is a joke. He says a player who comes in is good because he has been practicing well, but then turns around and says our offense isn't working because they haven't been in games and have only been getting reps in practice. Sorry buddy, but you are reaching because you have no idea what this offense is or even capable of. Hence the pulling stuff out of your ass. If were going to start Green and he is our future than Watson needs to start watching some Texas game film and take at look at the their play book for ideas. I really think Green is a Vince Young type athlete and has excelled running the spread in high school. He's comfortable with it and is good at it. Trying to have him run this ridiculous dink and dunk offense is a complete waste of time. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I don't think Green is a VY type athlete, and I don't think his comfort with his HS offense would do anything for any contending Div I program. Not saying he isn't a good QB with lots of potential. But it's a big stretch right now. Quote Link to comment
irieboy8 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I don't think Green is a VY type athlete, and I don't think his comfort with his HS offense would do anything for any contending Div I program. Not saying he isn't a good QB with lots of potential. But it's a big stretch right now. leave the training wheels on or off regardless you've got to pull out all the stops with OU... with that being said i think that just maybe just maybe....welll you get the idea Quote Link to comment
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