Homosexuality - Choice? or Genetic?

[zoogs]

I'm curious - of those five people who said homosexuality is a choice, how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

Similarly, for those who said it's in genes or 'other',how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

I kind of do think it's a choice, or at least a mix, or at least, that genes don't really determine it completely. It has nothing to do with religion for me since I don't have one, and it isn't a religious question in any way -- so it should have nothing to do with one's religious beliefs anyway.

 

I just think that the stigma that is tied to the choice is wrong.

 

To those of you "against" homosexuality -- who is it hurting? Who are you hoping to defend with your stance? How do you reconcile that with the fact that so many people sharing your stance is actually hurting many real, good people?

 

 

[HuskerShark]

I'm curious - of those five people who said homosexuality is a choice, how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

Similarly, for those who said it's in genes or 'other',how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

I kind of do think it's a choice, or at least a mix, or at least, that genes don't really determine it completely. It has nothing to do with religion for me since I don't have one, and it isn't a religious question in any way -- so it should have nothing to do with one's religious beliefs anyway.

 

I just think that the stigma that is tied to the choice is wrong.

 

To those of you "against" homosexuality -- who is it hurting? Who are you hoping to defend with your stance? How do you reconcile that with the fact that so many people sharing your stance is actually hurting many real, good people?

 

I don't think it's hurting good people with the stance that I take on it. Since you at least agree that choice is a factor, if not the only factor, in whether a person is gay or not, maybe this will resonate with you:

 

I don't hate gay people, and I don't discriminate against them, but I think it is best to let people know that there are better decisions to make than being gay.

[The Dude]

I'm curious - of those five people who said homosexuality is a choice, how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

Similarly, for those who said it's in genes or 'other',how would you describe your religious beliefs?

I chose "other", and I believe religion is Santa Claus for grown ups.

[Enhance]

"So why did you choose to be gay?" How many times have you groaned in frustration at questions like this? After years (even decades) of telling the rest of society that We Didn't Choose To Be This Way, lots of people still haven't gotten the message. No matter how many times we try to explain - by asking them why they decided to be straight, or comparing a homosexual orientation to left-handedness - it seems we still need to explain it again.

 

http://toddverbeek.com/diffangle/ChoosingToBeGay.html

[Ratt Mhule]

Psychology of people and how they come about making decisions is much more complex than any of you give it credit for.

And if there was a blueprint for it psychologists would beable to give a reason why someone is gay and what influenced that choice. They can't.

Not necessarily. The fact that you think that proves my point.

 

Your point is a pile of garbage. I bet you've never even taken the time to talk to someone who was gay. I used to think the same way you did, then I actually talked to one and became GREAT friends with him. I went to gay clubs with him and everything because I realized they are people too and some of the nicest people you'll ever meet at that. But you wouldn't know that because your too busy judging them. And Enhance, Im a Christian and I think its genetic.

 

And just for sh#ts and gigs, I've been hit on by many gay men and it doesn't bother me one bit because Im secure in my sexuality and my buddy told me if a gay man hits on you, take it as a compliment because gay men are very picky, so you know your good looking

[Enhance]

Huskershark, are you left handed or right handed? Did you choose to write with that hand, or do you write with the hand that always felt natural?

[Enhance]

I'm curious - of those five people who said homosexuality is a choice, how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

Similarly, for those who said it's in genes or 'other',how would you describe your religious beliefs?

 

I kind of do think it's a choice, or at least a mix, or at least, that genes don't really determine it completely. It has nothing to do with religion for me since I don't have one, and it isn't a religious question in any way -- so it should have nothing to do with one's religious beliefs anyway.

 

I just think that the stigma that is tied to the choice is wrong.

 

To those of you "against" homosexuality -- who is it hurting? Who are you hoping to defend with your stance? How do you reconcile that with the fact that so many people sharing your stance is actually hurting many real, good people?

I merely asked to see if the more religious people were the ones who said choice.

[strigori]

Psychology of people and how they come about making decisions is much more complex than any of you give it credit for.

And if there was a blueprint for it psychologists would beable to give a reason why someone is gay and what influenced that choice. They can't.

Not necessarily. The fact that you think that proves my point.

Serial Killers, CEOs, successful QB, rapists, and many other 'groups' or 'types' have collective traits. There is a reason why the FBI has profilers. I think you are grasping at straws trying to find justifacation for your own views.

[carlfense]

Shark- I don't know how to say this more politely so I will just say it.

 

You don't know as much as you think that you know.

 

That isn't supposed to be as condescending as it sounds. In fact, your statements remind me of carlfense circa 2003. I grew out of it. The more you know the more you know that you don't know sh#t.

[zoogs]

I don't think it's hurting good people with the stance that I take on it.

 

The social stigma and the lack of acceptance for who they are, that doesn't hurt people?

 

I don't hate gay people, and I don't discriminate against them, but I think it is best to let people know that there are better decisions to make than being gay.

 

I'd still be curious to know what you think are the detriments, what damage, or harm, can come from choosing to be gay. What is it that makes it a poor decision -- or if it isn't a poor decision that hurts anybody, why does it matter at all?

[HUSKER 37]

Isn't the main point that we "live and let live," not where homosexuality comes from? Sure, the roots of homosexuality are fine for discussion - as long as we don't use that conversation to invalidate who someone is...

I thought fer sure we were trying to isolate the cause so we can eliminate further occurances and "cure" this thing once and for all.

 

Sorry..The mad scientist in me rears it's ugly head.

 

It's amazing how successful I've been at avoiding gay people..Not that I was afraid of catching it from them...other than maybe aids at one time, but mainly for the same reason I avoided fat chicks (I'm only half kidding..I think)...The closest I've come to knowing a gay person was when I first moved out here, I worked with a guy who had a porn mustache...Then there was my Wife's father, but he died of aids over a decade before I met my now ex-wife.

 

My parents stressed the importance of treating everybody equally...The only group of people that that was difficult to me at all WAS the gay community..and maybe Sooner fans...But I don't mind saying I'm a little proud at how far I've come...Not that they are sitting by their closet doors waiting for MY approval.

 

I guess I wasn't very good at hiding my homophobia from my Mom...After my Son was born and she'd flown out to meet him..One of the 1st questions she asked me was about my unconditional love for him...She asked if I'd love him any less if he turned out to be gay..."NOT ONE IOTA" I think I said.

 

Looking at the poll results...I cannot believe there are actually people in this day and age that truly believe it is the resuly of only environment...or only genetics..And I'm slowly coming to the realization that not having them in our lives at all would be more than a little sad.

 

BUT I AM CURIOUS...If we ended up being able to "cure" homosexuality, how many of you would want that?

 

And to the religious pollster::::

God and me are buds, but he warned me about Religion.

[jsneb83]

Maybe I just don't get it, but how is eye color a disposition?

 

1.

the predominant or prevailing tendency of one's spirits; natural mental and emotional outlook or mood; characteristic attitude: a girl with a pleasant disposition.

2.

state of mind regarding something; inclination: a disposition to gamble.

3.

physical inclination or tendency: the disposition of ice to melt when heated.

 

Eye color doesn't fit there for me.

In biological terms, genetic disposition has two meanings. One is "tendency", as in a genetic disposition to, say, a disease. The other is a trait that is the result of the genetic mix and is expressed physically. In other words, it doesn't necessarily refer to a "tendency".

 

Can you provide some sort of link to some sort of hard evidence on this? The only things I've seen, even with genetic disposition, points towards a tendency. It talks about the potential environmental things causing the disposition to either occur or stay suppressed..

Wouldn't blue eyes be more of a genetic mutation than a genetic disposition?

[knapplc]

I don't hate gay people, and I don't discriminate against them, but I think it is best to let people know that there are better decisions to make than being gay.

 

Out of curiosity, when did this change? Because as recently as three weeks ago, you did hate them:

 

I hate openly gay people...

[zoogs]

BUT I AM CURIOUS...If we ended up being able to "cure" homosexuality, how many of you would want that?

 

 

 

I'm curious too! Good question.

[knapplc]

BUT I AM CURIOUS...If we ended up being able to "cure" homosexuality, how many of you would want that?

 

 

 

I'm curious too! Good question.

 

Doesn't interest me in the least. The very word "cure" implies that something is wrong, and I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality between consenting adults. Nor do I see how it's my business at all.

 

If we're waving a magic wand and "curing" anyone, I'd rather see a cure for pedophiles.