corncraze Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 With Green no gone, do we still use it? Do we have another back we could put back there with the same speed threat as Green? Quote Link to comment
Warrior Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 There are other backs and didn't Beck use some WR's in the diamond too? Quote Link to comment
whateveritis1224 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Marrow behind Martinez, Burkhead and Ameer on the sides. Boom there you go. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think we should still use it...and If I were Beck, I'd use it a lot. I'd run it as the base. That's just me though. I agree to that I think Abdullah, Marrow, And Rex is still a great combo. Marrow could be a dominant run blocker and Rex would be the perfect fake runner for a play action pass and he has some pretty good pass blocking skills for a RB. And after Marrow gets his block Abdullah would be gone. Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. I like Marrow up front to have some great blocks. Left- Marrow. Back- Rex. Right- Cross or Abdullah. Quote Link to comment
Nebula Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. Yep, add those additional big bodies that can serve as pulling guards of sorts, with the slightly increased mobility they'd bring as fullbacks. I can also see having Rex behind Martinez with Bell or Turner to one side and Cross or Zim or Marrow on the other. A lot of opportunity for misdirection there, with either a planned fake or zone read to the speedster on one side, taking a defender with them, and having Martinez, the big back (depending on whether its a planned fake or an actual read), and Rex go in the other direction with an eye at having an option to Rex available or eschewing that and having Martinez keep with the big back looking to pick up a block to seal the inside and have Martinez and Rex flare out. If you have Enunwa locked up on a CB or safety, you've got a shot at Martinez and Rex running with one defender to beat. Martinez could then potentially use his straight line speed to K-State the D, or flip it to Rex, who always makes the first guy miss. A lot of potential in this formation. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 throw a kenny bell or Jamal Turner in the diamond here and there. there's still plenty of options. No law says the only way to get the ball to a receiver is throwing it to him. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. Yep, add those additional big bodies that can serve as pulling guards of sorts, with the slightly increased mobility they'd bring as fullbacks. I can also see having Rex behind Martinez with Bell or Turner to one side and Cross or Zim or Marrow on the other. A lot of opportunity for misdirection there, with either a planned fake or zone read to the speedster on one side, taking a defender with them, and having Martinez, the big back (depending on whether its a planned fake or an actual read), and Rex go in the other direction with an eye at having an option to Rex available or eschewing that and having Martinez keep with the big back looking to pick up a block to seal the inside and have Martinez and Rex flare out. If you have Enunwa locked up on a CB or safety, you've got a shot at Martinez and Rex running with one defender to beat. Martinez could then potentially use his straight line speed to K-State the D, or flip it to Rex, who always makes the first guy miss. A lot of potential in this formation. I wish Beck would just make that our base formation for every play! Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. I like Marrow up front to have some great blocks. Left- Marrow. Back- Rex. Right- Cross or Abdullah. That's what I'm thinking. Then Martinez calls the play to the left/right depending on how the defense lines up. Good for 5 yards, every time. Run this about 20 times in the first half and watch the defense slowly break down, then Martinez starts breaking them up the middle for 80+ in the second half. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Cross/Zimmerer and Marrow on the sides, Rex behind Martinez. Even bigger BOOM. I like Marrow up front to have some great blocks. Left- Marrow. Back- Rex. Right- Cross or Abdullah. That's what I'm thinking. Then Martinez calls the play to the left/right depending on how the defense lines up. Good for 5 yards, every time. Run this about 20 times in the first half and watch the defense slowly break down, then Martinez starts breaking them up the middle for 80+ in the second half. You sir have just read my mind. Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The diamond is only going to be a change of pace formation. Although I think it has a significant amount of useful applications in a game, I doubt we'll ever see the formation more than five times in a game. Quote Link to comment
Hoosker Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Martinez, Burkhead, Abdullah, and Cross/Turner/Marrow/Bell. Cross and Marrow would be the power threats, while Bell/Turner would be the speed/reverse threats with Turner also having the ability to throw. That would be one deadly package, but I agree with Enhance, we won't see it nearly enough. Shame. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The diamond is only going to be a change of pace formation. Although I think it has a significant amount of useful applications in a game, I doubt we'll ever see the formation more than five times in a game. I can dream cant I? Quote Link to comment
Husker from Kansas Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 i think the should put marrow up front t-mart behind him, rex to the right, and cross to the left, hike the ball thru marrows legs to tmart so he has better blockers around him when he goes to pass, essentially two o lines blocking for him so he has time to make a good quality pass!!! Quote Link to comment
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