RedDenver Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This post should have ended the argument: Alright stats boy: I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them: Klein in 2011 317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry McCoy in 2011 129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him. Colter 2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC 2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC Miller 2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC 2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC Robinson 2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC 2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12. Guys, husker_99 isn't even listening to your points. I can't decide if he's an excellent troll, willfully ignoring your arguments, or incapable of seeing anything other than his own viewpoint. I'm leaning towards trolling since he won't pin down his point and keeps shifting the argument. husker_99, If you really aren't trolling, then clearly spell out your point for us in a sentence or two. Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Do you even like the Huskers!?..... i don't even know anymore since i came to this board. Seems like if you don't drink the kool-aid don't bother posting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_complex 2 Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Do you even like the Huskers!?..... i don't even know anymore since i came to this board. Seems like if you don't drink the kool-aid don't bother posting. http://en.wikipedia..../Martyr_complex once again another fail by saunders. i'm not surprised though. I'm not claiming to be a martyr. Quote Link to comment
ADS Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This thread turned in to a dumpster fire. But, am I surprised? No. Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. Now who is the one giving opinions? Oh, and I don't need to provide the stats EZ-E provided. 5 YPC is significantly greater than 3 YPC Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. Now who is the one giving opinions? Oh, and I don't need to provide the stats EZ-E provided. 5 YPC is significantly greater than 3 YPC so? that just means they had less rushing attempts. their stats wasn't that much better which you probably haven't even looked at since you keep running your mouth. i already stated i wasn't talking about explosiveness so why do you still continue to talk about it? I'm the only one arguing my original statement you went off to a tangent all by yourself. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This post should have ended the argument: Alright stats boy: I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them: Klein in 2011 317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry McCoy in 2011 129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him. Colter 2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC 2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC Miller 2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC 2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC Robinson 2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC 2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12. Guys, husker_99 isn't even listening to your points. I can't decide if he's an excellent troll, willfully ignoring your arguments, or incapable of seeing anything other than his own viewpoint. I'm leaning towards trolling since he won't pin down his point and keeps shifting the argument. husker_99, If you really aren't trolling, then clearly spell out your point for us in a sentence or two. No it's simple they are making points i never was talking about. they assumed which is their biggest mistake. Quote Link to comment
Warrior10 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. So you expect us to produce a DT at all times that is equal to the ability of arguably one of THE BEST DT's of all time? Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 what was this thread originally about? hopefully bo can get it going on both sides of the ball this season and we can have great year Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. So you expect us to produce a DT at all times that is equal to the ability of arguably one of THE BEST DT's of all time? nope. but the defense that went up against Big 12 qb's vs Big Ten qb's was vastly superior. Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This post should have ended the argument: Alright stats boy: I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them: Klein in 2011 317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry McCoy in 2011 129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him. Colter 2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC 2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC Miller 2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC 2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC Robinson 2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC 2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12. Guys, husker_99 isn't even listening to your points. I can't decide if he's an excellent troll, willfully ignoring your arguments, or incapable of seeing anything other than his own viewpoint. I'm leaning towards trolling since he won't pin down his point and keeps shifting the argument. husker_99, If you really aren't trolling, then clearly spell out your point for us in a sentence or two. No it's simple they are making points i never was talking about. they assumed which is their biggest mistake. That's an evasion. You still haven't clearly stated your point. What point are you making/defending? Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 ok fine. Yes Michigan and Ohio St. receivers can catch. So now we're back to, all things being equal, we have faced more dangerous dual threat QBs in the Big Ten than we have in the Big XII. no you haven't. It doesn't matter if they get more yards per carry if can't put up much more massive numbers than already provided. You have no stats to back up your argument just opinion. now when we faced the qbs in the Big 12 we had a much much better defense. Suh would've tossed around miller, colter, and robinson around just like he did in the Big 12. we would've shut them down and held them to pedestrian like numbers. Now who is the one giving opinions? Oh, and I don't need to provide the stats EZ-E provided. 5 YPC is significantly greater than 3 YPC so? that just means they had less rushing attempts. their stats wasn't that much better which you probably haven't even looked at since you keep running your mouth. i already stated i wasn't talking about explosiveness so why do you still continue to talk about it? I'm the only one arguing my original statement you went off to a tangent all by yourself. You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right? Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right? Stop running your mouth. Quote Link to comment
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