Count 'Bility Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 To be honest in the long run, I'd like to see Beck stay for the main reason of continuity. With this young batch of guys and a couple of new qb's, I just think it would be best to let them all develop together. I think he's got a lot of potential, and we've seen numerious flashes of his genius. But damn, Bo has got to get him reeled in. A lot of his situational playcalling has been very suspect in my opinion this year. Theyve got to get it pared down some and for god's sake, develope and identity. Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 To be honest in the long run, I'd like to see Beck stay for the main reason of continuity. With this young batch of guys and a couple of new qb's, I just think it would be best to let them all develop together. I think he's got a lot of potential, and we've seen numerious flashes of his genius. But damn, Bo has got to get him reeled in. A lot of his situational playcalling has been very suspect in my opinion this year. Theyve got to get it pared down some and for god's sake, develope and identity. I'm with you on him staying, for the same reasons. But I've given up on the identity part, and I don't think that is on Beck, I think it's Bo. Bo looks at the offense through a defensive lens. He sees all these things that are tough to defend and decided that's what our offense has to be able to do. Nevermind the fact that we don't have the personell for it. It's not about an offense that executes, it's about an offense that can exploit a D. I don't like that it's looked at from that perspective. You exploit a D by executing your offense...adding a wrinkle here and there, not changing the gameplan week-to-week. There's a bigger picture that's missing from the offense. That "rhythm" good teams develop throughout a game. We can never get into that because we're all over the place. Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 If so I think our new OC could be one of the following from the "mill" of names, Darlington's father who's being considered as one of the next Gus Malzahn. Cotton (please God no), Frost will be rumored but not interested, Mangino and Lance Leipold who almost ended up here before. That list is so bad I actually hope Beck stays. I think Darlington will be an OC at a D-I school very soon. He's credited with taking his team to the state title (tough comp) for a second strait year. He lost his starting QB and I think best WR. His line averaged about 215 lbs and he converted a FB to QB. They killed it this year as he installed a completely new offense in 1 week complete with new blocking schemes etc. Very creative mind and that's why he's getting noticed. He's also getting calls from college and pro folks asking questions about his schemes. That bodes pretty well for him. Mangino and Leipold are also very quality coaches when it comes to offense. I'd be ok with any of those 3. I'm sure more names will pop up too if he does go. Agree, Mangino was great as the OC at OU and in his play calling duties as HC at KU. He struggled in other areas as HC, but has excelled in the OC role. Leipold has been great at Wisconsin-Whitewater winning multiple NC's as their HC. Quote Link to comment
Lil' Red Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 @mitchsherman Tim Beck was a rumored candidate. RT@CollegeGameDay Dino Babers is leaving E. Illinois to coach at Bowling Green --> http://es.pn/1dRFMh6 Quote Link to comment
AngryHusker88 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There's no way Eastern Illinois can't find a better candidate to hire than Tim Beck. That said, I hope they hire him Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm really rooting for Beck to get this position. I mean really really rooting for him. Quote Link to comment
skersfan Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I really do not know where I am on this. We ran off Watson, who Tom demanded be retained. He seemed similar to what we see today. If Beck leaves will we have another friend, that will be a yes man. I think the offense is controlled by Bo. He want every thing that is tough for the defense to be in our offense it seems. Rather than have an offense that is set, and teams adjust to what we do, not the offense adjusting to what the defense does. I really do not see any change coming on that side. We had a great offensive mind here most of the time Bo was incharge, and wonder how much he used the wealth of knowledge? None of us know. Quote Link to comment
AngryHusker88 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 My hope is (supposing that somehow some AD hires Tim Beck to be the man in charge) that Bo Pelini will somehow change his ways & hire someone who's not a 'yes man'. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There's no way Eastern Illinois can't find a better candidate to hire than Tim Beck. That said, I hope they hire him Looking at the tweet, it seems he was a candidate for the Bowling Green job? Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 There's no way Eastern Illinois can't find a better candidate to hire than Tim Beck. That said, I hope they hire him Looking at the tweet, it seems he was a candidate for the Bowling Green job? Â I think you might be right on that. Â Quote Link to comment
AngryHusker88 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 'Candidate' being the key word. I'm very doubtful that any athletic director in charge of a FBS or FCS football program will actually hire him to be a head coach, however I hope I am wrong. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I really do not know where I am on this. We ran off Watson, who Tom demanded be retained. He seemed similar to what we see today. If Beck leaves will we have another friend, that will be a yes man. I think the offense is controlled by Bo. He want every thing that is tough for the defense to be in our offense it seems. Rather than have an offense that is set, and teams adjust to what we do, not the offense adjusting to what the defense does. I really do not see any change coming on that side. We had a great offensive mind here most of the time Bo was incharge, and wonder how much he used the wealth of knowledge? None of us know. Â If we lose Beck and Bo just gets another yes man it's just another reason why Bo is not head coach material. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Seems to me as if a little perspective is in order. We were #19 in rushing yards per game this year - #11 among BCS conference schools. Of the 10 schools ahead of us, only six averaged more passing yards per game - Ohio State, Wisconsin, Oregon, Baylor, Washington, and Missouri. None of those teams had nearly the quarterback injury issues we had and I'm pretty sure none had worse injury issues on the OLine. Â Last year we were #3 among BCS schools in rushing and only Oregon had more passing yards. And all that is with the sub-par players we've recruited over the last several years. I'd say some need to have more realistic expectations but those numbers are far beyond what many seem to think we've accomplished lately. 2 Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Beck would take a huge pay cut to go to NDSU. Doesn't matter because they promoted their Defensive Coordinator. Â So your saying they have a need for an FCS skilled D-coordinator? Â Â Well what a coincidence.. we got the perfect guy for them.... Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Seems to me as if a little perspective is in order. We were #19 in rushing yards per game this year - #11 among BCS conference schools. Of the 10 schools ahead of us, only six averaged more passing yards per game - Ohio State, Wisconsin, Oregon, Baylor, Washington, and Missouri. None of those teams had nearly the quarterback injury issues we had and I'm pretty sure none had worse injury issues on the OLine. Â Last year we were #3 among BCS schools in rushing and only Oregon had more passing yards. And all that is with the sub-par players we've recruited over the last several years. I'd say some need to have more realistic expectations but those numbers are far beyond what many seem to think we've accomplished lately. stats can be misleading. they are the good on an otherwise par year. Quote Link to comment
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