losing recruits to Michigan?

[junior4949]

 

Michigan has just as much to offer as Nebraska as far as tradition, support, etc goes. They have a bigger name coach, which doesn't mean better, but it's a recruiting draw. They're also one of the best public universities in the country and Ann Arbor probably has bigger draw than Lincoln.

 

It isn't a huge stretch to think that Michigan will reassert themselves quickly under Harbaugh. Hoke was a bad coach, not a bad recruiter. Nebraska has a culture hurdle to cross before it can move forward (thanks, Bo) and this team has not been left in great shape. How many of you are solid about what we have at quarterback right now? That's not to mention potential serious problem spots at LB and DE that the new staff is inheriting.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to be such a downer there. The sky isn't falling here by a long shot, but Michigan is a formidable opponent in any recruiting battle.

this is a good post. But me personally I still dont see where it answers my question of what does Michigan have to offer that we dont in a big picture.

 

I'm not tryin to find a way to say Nebraska has something to offer that Michigan doesnt. I think the two are pretty damn equal. But it just feels like there's this perception natianally that compariing Nebraska to Michigan is like comparing Nebraska to say Florida or USC in the recruiting front right now. And to me when you look at some recruiting disadvantage perceptions such as weather, midwest, Big10, and so on, Michigan isnt free from those kinda things either.

 

So it's not really about being better but being equal. And I still dont see where an opportunity at Michigan blows out of the water an opportunity at Nebraska.

 

What is the one thing that nearly every single D1 recruit with a star rating of three or higher wants to achieve? They want to play in the NFL, correct? Which university you mention has a coach who just came from the NFL? Which school has a coach that coached his team to the Super Bowl? Which school has a coach that put Stanford back on the football map?

 

If Pete Carroll quit the Seahawks today and was named the HC at Wyoming, I'd argue he'd have no problem luring top talent to Laramie. I'm not sure how much attention potential recruits pay attention to money and such, but Michigan just made Harbaugh the highest paid college coach. I'd see this as a great commitment to the sport I'm being recruited to play.

 

I'm excited about our situation here at Nebraska and Riley as our coach. However, it's pretty easy to see why Michigan will enjoy an easier time recruiting.

[SLHusker]

Nebraska is a way better place to live. We got corn!

[TheSker]

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

[Hedley Lamarr]

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

One is an Ass and one is a great guy.

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

Almost as big as if they are completely different people.

[Hedley Lamarr]

 

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

Almost as big as if they are completely different people.

Both have zero national titles and zero super bowl wins

[drmathprog]

Ann Arbor has poutine, Loncoln has runza. Seems like a draw to me.

[TheSker]

 

 

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

Almost as big as if they are completely different people.

Both have zero national titles and zero super bowl wins

 

One didn't need a portion of its fan base to do a Google search to find out who he was.

[Landlord]

 

What does Michigan offer that Nebraska doesn't?

 

Nebraska seems like the obvious choice for these kids but young kids do dumb sh#t all the time. Committing to Michigan would just go on the list of dumb stuff to do. It won't be the last mistake they ever make.

 

Gonna be tough for Michigan to ever even sniff a conference championship game.

 

By the way, why do they even list that Rueben Jones kid as a Husker commit. From that comment in the article it seems pretty clear he's deciding between Louisville or Michigan? Any answer to that?

I asked this one day and I opened myself up to a sh#tstorm of rhetoric, blind perception, and population bullsh#t. And that's pretty much all it was. It was laughable to the point that I was speechless and walked away. Nothing anyone said answered my question.

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter what they do have, it matters what people believe they have. Even if it's bullsh#t, if people believe it, that's a problem for us, and it's obvious that people believe it, because a lot more people live there, and they always out-recruit us.

 

Regardless, they still have more to offer even just as a state without going into anything related to the football program.

 

 

 

They have a lot more people. People like that. They also have more dense population. More people + same amount of space = more people nearby = more cute girls/more friends/more jobs/etc.

 

They have 21 cities with 70,000+ people compared to our 2.

 

They have professional sports teams.

 

They draw more things like bands, plays, musicals and other touring events and also more frequently.

 

They've got a better university and university system and college selection as a whole.

 

They have a lite version of an ocean.

 

They have less conservative government and more diverse population.

 

They have casinos.

 

They have huge music festivals.

 

They have a legitimate amusement park.

 

 

And they're close to other states that have more of the same.

[Count 'Bility]

 

 

 

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

Almost as big as if they are completely different people.

Both have zero national titles and zero super bowl wins

 

One didn't need a portion of its fan base to do a Google search to find out who he was.

 

I didnt. I'd say that would be more of an indictment on the greatest fans of college football than Mike Riley.

[SWAMI]

 

 

Michigan has just as much to offer as Nebraska as far as tradition, support, etc goes. They have a bigger name coach, which doesn't mean better, but it's a recruiting draw. They're also one of the best public universities in the country and Ann Arbor probably has bigger draw than Lincoln.

 

It isn't a huge stretch to think that Michigan will reassert themselves quickly under Harbaugh. Hoke was a bad coach, not a bad recruiter. Nebraska has a culture hurdle to cross before it can move forward (thanks, Bo) and this team has not been left in great shape. How many of you are solid about what we have at quarterback right now? That's not to mention potential serious problem spots at LB and DE that the new staff is inheriting.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to be such a downer there. The sky isn't falling here by a long shot, but Michigan is a formidable opponent in any recruiting battle.

this is a good post. But me personally I still dont see where it answers my question of what does Michigan have to offer that we dont in a big picture.

 

I'm not tryin to find a way to say Nebraska has something to offer that Michigan doesnt. I think the two are pretty damn equal. But it just feels like there's this perception natianally that compariing Nebraska to Michigan is like comparing Nebraska to say Florida or USC in the recruiting front right now. And to me when you look at some recruiting disadvantage perceptions such as weather, midwest, Big10, and so on, Michigan isnt free from those kinda things either.

 

So it's not really about being better but being equal. And I still dont see where an opportunity at Michigan blows out of the water an opportunity at Nebraska.

 

What is the one thing that nearly every single D1 recruit with a star rating of three or higher wants to achieve? They want to play in the NFL, correct? Which university you mention has a coach who just came from the NFL? Which school has a coach that coached his team to the Super Bowl? Which school has a coach that put Stanford back on the football map?

 

If Pete Carroll quit the Seahawks today and was named the HC at Wyoming, I'd argue he'd have no problem luring top talent to Laramie. I'm not sure how much attention potential recruits pay attention to money and such, but Michigan just made Harbaugh the highest paid college coach. I'd see this as a great commitment to the sport I'm being recruited to play.

 

I'm excited about our situation here at Nebraska and Riley as our coach. However, it's pretty easy to see why Michigan will enjoy an easier time recruiting.

 

Damn, I knew we should have kept Calahan.

[SWAMI]

 

 

What does Michigan offer that Nebraska doesn't?

 

Nebraska seems like the obvious choice for these kids but young kids do dumb sh#t all the time. Committing to Michigan would just go on the list of dumb stuff to do. It won't be the last mistake they ever make.

 

Gonna be tough for Michigan to ever even sniff a conference championship game.

 

By the way, why do they even list that Rueben Jones kid as a Husker commit. From that comment in the article it seems pretty clear he's deciding between Louisville or Michigan? Any answer to that?

I asked this one day and I opened myself up to a sh#tstorm of rhetoric, blind perception, and population bullsh#t. And that's pretty much all it was. It was laughable to the point that I was speechless and walked away. Nothing anyone said answered my question.

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter what they do have, it matters what people believe they have. Even if it's bullsh#t, if people believe it, that's a problem for us, and it's obvious that people believe it, because a lot more people live there, and they always out-recruit us.

 

Regardless, they still have more to offer even just as a state without going into anything related to the football program.

 

 

 

They have a lot more people. People like that. They also have more dense population. More people + same amount of space = more people nearby = more cute girls/more friends/more jobs/etc.

 

They have 21 cities with 70,000+ people compared to our 2.

 

They have professional sports teams.

 

They draw more things like bands, plays, musicals and other touring events and also more frequently.

 

They've got a better university and university system and college selection as a whole.

 

They have a lite version of an ocean.

 

They have less conservative government and more diverse population.

 

They have casinos.

 

They have huge music festivals.

 

They have a legitimate amusement park.

 

 

And they're close to other states that have more of the same.

 

And great Salmon fishing in that pond westward.

[Hedley Lamarr]

 

 

 

 

There's a big difference between a visit from Jim Harbaugh and a visit from Mike Riley.

Almost as big as if they are completely different people.

Both have zero national titles and zero super bowl wins

One didn't need a portion of its fan base to do a Google search to find out who he was.

He was an alumni of michigan boy wonder. If Riley were from NU no one would wonder who he was

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

What does Michigan offer that Nebraska doesn't?

 

Nebraska seems like the obvious choice for these kids but young kids do dumb sh#t all the time. Committing to Michigan would just go on the list of dumb stuff to do. It won't be the last mistake they ever make.

 

Gonna be tough for Michigan to ever even sniff a conference championship game.

 

By the way, why do they even list that Rueben Jones kid as a Husker commit. From that comment in the article it seems pretty clear he's deciding between Louisville or Michigan? Any answer to that?

I asked this one day and I opened myself up to a sh#tstorm of rhetoric, blind perception, and population bullsh#t. And that's pretty much all it was. It was laughable to the point that I was speechless and walked away. Nothing anyone said answered my question.

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter what they do have, it matters what people believe they have. Even if it's bullsh#t, if people believe it, that's a problem for us, and it's obvious that people believe it, because a lot more people live there, and they always out-recruit us.

 

Regardless, they still have more to offer even just as a state without going into anything related to the football program.

 

 

 

They have a lot more people. People like that. They also have more dense population. More people + same amount of space = more people nearby = more cute girls/more friends/more jobs/etc.

 

They have 21 cities with 70,000+ people compared to our 2.

 

They have professional sports teams.

 

They draw more things like bands, plays, musicals and other touring events and also more frequently.

 

They've got a better university and university system and college selection as a whole.

 

They have a lite version of an ocean.

 

They have less conservative government and more diverse population.

 

They have casinos.

 

They have huge music festivals.

 

They have a legitimate amusement park.

 

 

And they're close to other states that have more of the same.

 

I honestly have never heard of a recruit going somewhere because of music festivals, plays, amusement park, musicals. As for the rest of the state, how many out of state recruits to Michigan actually do anything in any other part of the state of Michigan for entertainment?

 

Now, we do have a perception problem in that I know other recruiters try to convince recruits that Lincoln is nothing but corn fields. That is why it is so important to get recruits here.

 

I have traveled through Ann Arbor before and honestly, it's not that much different than Lincoln as far as what a college kid is actually going to do while there.

[Haspula]

I bet reuben is gone. IMO, Matt Snyder is 50/50. Good chance Daishon sticks with NU, I think he will.

 

Wonder who harbah offers next? I think the davis twins, stanley morgan, snyder, barnett, gaylord, reuben jones are the most important ones to keep (that are left unsigned) based on current roster depth and talent