Johnny Stanton leaving the Huskers

[Hunter94]

 

 

Race for #2? When did that start?

Usually after my second burrito. In all seriousness, wasn't it Stanton who needed the playbook dumbed down at one of those all star games? That's when I worried about him.

 

I think that was Bubba Starling. Stanton hurt his knee his senior year and didn't play in any of those games.

 

the worst of the worst just left......

[WalksBehindtheRows]

That sucks for sure. It will be interesting to see what the identity of this offense is heading into the future.

[southernoregonhusker]

 

 

Race for #2? When did that start?

Usually after my second burrito. In all seriousness, wasn't it Stanton who needed the playbook dumbed down at one of those all star games? That's when I worried about him.

 

I think that was Bubba Starling. Stanton hurt his knee his senior year and didn't play in any of those games.

 

Ooooohh, I think you're right. This getting old thing is bad for my memory.

[jmfb]

 

 

 

Race for #2? When did that start?

Usually after my second burrito. In all seriousness, wasn't it Stanton who needed the playbook dumbed down at one of those all star games? That's when I worried about him.

 

I think that was Bubba Starling. Stanton hurt his knee his senior year and didn't play in any of those games.

 

Ooooohh, I think you're right. This getting old thing is bad for my memory.

 

Starling would have failed here too

Great athlete- RB, playing QB

[jmfb]

 

 

 

 

 

For those who thought Stanton was the man, was in the mix, was going to play

You were wrong

Very evident by his lack of mention this spring and his poor play in spring game

Lack of accuracy is not easy to fix

Did you know he was a bust from the beginning or what

I said here several times that he had accuracy issues, which are the most difficult to fix

I also said since he didn't get in at the Spring game until very late and when he did he looked bad meant he wouldn't be playing QB here at NU

Several disagreed with that and said all it was going to take was some QB whispering- that his Elite 11 pedigree proved he deserved a shot etc

I countered that Harrison Becks QB camp ratings didn't mean much either and that JS wouldn't be taking any QB snaps at NU

Long term- Riley will not value or chase down QBs who run well and don't have consistently accurate arms

 

From what I saw he was definitely behind TA, Darlington and Broekemeier. Broekemeier is a much better QB than most are giving credit, he's no Matt Turman, kid can play.

Im not impressed with Bush (his tilt on the ball is awkward) or Fyfe, but even at that, being 4th best and not making the 105- he was done a long time ago.

Oh so you thought he was a bust in April when four other QBs played in front of him. Wow how observant you are. There's no way you thought he was going to be a bust when he was first recruited.

He was a bust when he wasn't even close to catching Fyfe for #2 last year

When Riley was named coach and I knew the offense he wanted to run- Stanton wasn't a fit, so last year it was a forgone conclusion

He wasn't going to be a "bust" if the type of O we were running favored an athlete playing QB like TM or Stanton. But he couldn't even elevate on the charts for that- let along a Pro Style O.

 

BTW LOTS of guys were still on the Stanton bandwagon- just a couple of weeks ago right here on this forum- "he is an elite 11 guy, all he needs is some more good QB coaching- the QB whisperer can make him into something". I said it was never going to happen, people disagreed

Those people were wrong

 

Just curious. If you know the style of offense Mike Riley runs, why did Riley and his staff put the full court press on Stanton when recruiting him coming out of HS????

 

MR has always run a Pro Style offense, at every stop he's coached at. Thats what he knows and believes in-That's not debateable

They don't hit on every recruit- and they do recruit Cali very hard. A .500 program isn't hitting on every recruit- that's what OSU was under Riley.

He was on their radar- based on the location and the fact he attended camps/put up some numbers

He had the size they like but his accuracy issues meant he wasn't destined to start in DI for anyone running an offense that required a pretty good passing game

[TITANIC VS LUSITANIA]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For those who thought Stanton was the man, was in the mix, was going to play

You were wrong

Very evident by his lack of mention this spring and his poor play in spring game

Lack of accuracy is not easy to fix

Did you know he was a bust from the beginning or what

I said here several times that he had accuracy issues, which are the most difficult to fix

I also said since he didn't get in at the Spring game until very late and when he did he looked bad meant he wouldn't be playing QB here at NU

Several disagreed with that and said all it was going to take was some QB whispering- that his Elite 11 pedigree proved he deserved a shot etc

I countered that Harrison Becks QB camp ratings didn't mean much either and that JS wouldn't be taking any QB snaps at NU

Long term- Riley will not value or chase down QBs who run well and don't have consistently accurate arms

 

From what I saw he was definitely behind TA, Darlington and Broekemeier. Broekemeier is a much better QB than most are giving credit, he's no Matt Turman, kid can play.

Im not impressed with Bush (his tilt on the ball is awkward) or Fyfe, but even at that, being 4th best and not making the 105- he was done a long time ago.

Oh so you thought he was a bust in April when four other QBs played in front of him. Wow how observant you are. There's no way you thought he was going to be a bust when he was first recruited.

He was a bust when he wasn't even close to catching Fyfe for #2 last year

When Riley was named coach and I knew the offense he wanted to run- Stanton wasn't a fit, so last year it was a forgone conclusion

He wasn't going to be a "bust" if the type of O we were running favored an athlete playing QB like TM or Stanton. But he couldn't even elevate on the charts for that- let along a Pro Style O.

 

BTW LOTS of guys were still on the Stanton bandwagon- just a couple of weeks ago right here on this forum- "he is an elite 11 guy, all he needs is some more good QB coaching- the QB whisperer can make him into something". I said it was never going to happen, people disagreed

Those people were wrong

Just curious. If you know the style of offense Mike Riley runs, why did Riley and his staff put the full court press on Stanton when recruiting him coming out of HS????

MR has always run a Pro Style offense, at every stop he's coached at. Thats what he knows and believes in-That's not debateable

They don't hit on every recruit- and they do recruit Cali very hard. A .500 program isn't hitting on every recruit- that's what OSU was under Riley.

He was on their radar- based on the location and the fact he attended camps/put up some numbers

He had the size they like but his accuracy issues meant he wasn't destined to start in DI for anyone running an offense that required a pretty good passing game

Your opinion changed over time, like everyone else's. Gotta stop that cherry picking jmfb!

[Stumpy1]

He is full of himself. Riley and company didn't recruit Stanton just because he was in California and attended some camps. They recruited him because they thought he was a great player and he could have helped the team. He was at the top of their QB board.

[DrunkOffPunch]

 

Starling would have failed here too

Great athlete- RB, playing QB

 

That gets thrown around here a lot but what does that even mean? Are the QBs at Georgia Tech not QBs because they only throw the ball 10 times a game? Was Tommie Frazier not a QB because he was below average at best when it came to the passing game?

[jmfb]

He is full of himself. Riley and company didn't recruit Stanton just because he was in California and attended some camps. They recruited him because they thought he was a great player and he could have helped the team. He was at the top of their QB board.

And look how that turned out

Just like I said it would

 

If OSU was always recruiting kids no one else wanted because of their bad facilities etc and NU got him- NU hasn't had much luck recruiting good QBs for a very long time, What does that say about Stanton?

That's why he is where he is

[jmfb]

 

 

Starling would have failed here too

Great athlete- RB, playing QB

 

That gets thrown around here a lot but what does that even mean? Are the QBs at Georgia Tech not QBs because they only throw the ball 10 times a game? Was Tommie Frazier not a QB because he was below average at best when it came to the passing game?

 

Tommie was great for Osbornes offense

This is a Pro Style offense- much different kind of player they want at that spot

[The Dude]

The most surprising thing is he apparently didn't consider a position change. It's difficult to play QB at this level if you have a tough time throwing a football within 10 yards of a target.

[jmfb]

The most surprising thing is he apparently didn't consider a position change. It's difficult to play QB at this level if you have a tough time throwing a football within 10 yards of a target.

Well 2-3 weeks ago lots of people on this board thought all he needed was a QB "whisperer" and he would be right in the hunt

I said he wouldnt ever play a down.

 

A run first based offense- might be something that would work for him- but not anything close to Pro Style

[cg_8]

 

 

Starling would have failed here too

Great athlete- RB, playing QB

 

That gets thrown around here a lot but what does that even mean? Are the QBs at Georgia Tech not QBs because they only throw the ball 10 times a game? Was Tommie Frazier not a QB because he was below average at best when it came to the passing game?

 

Yeah. Does a WR who throws a great ball more of a QB than Tommie or Justin Thomas from GT? Or is he just a "QB, playing WR"?

[The Dude]

 

 

The most surprising thing is he apparently didn't consider a position change. It's difficult to play QB at this level if you have a tough time throwing a football within 10 yards of a target.

Well 2-3 weeks ago lots of people on this board thought all he needed was a QB "whisperer" and he would be right in the hunt

I said he wouldnt ever play a down.

Congratulations!

[DrunkOffPunch]

For all of you who thought Stanton was the guy, was in the mix, was one of the top guys, could start

You were wrong

 

For those who thought Stanton was the man, was in the mix, was going to play

You were wrong

 

I said here several times that he had accuracy issues, which are the most difficult to fix

 

 

I also said since he didn't get in at the Spring game until very late and when he did he looked bad meant he wouldn't be playing QB here at NU

Several disagreed with that and said all it was going to take was some QB whispering- that his Elite 11 pedigree proved he deserved a shot etc

I countered that Harrison Becks QB camp ratings didn't mean much either and that JS wouldn't be taking any QB snaps at NU

 

 

BTW LOTS of guys were still on the Stanton bandwagon- just a couple of weeks ago right here on this forum- "he is an elite 11 guy, all he needs is some more good QB coaching- the QB whisperer can make him into something". I said it was never going to happen, people disagreed

Those people were wrong

 

 

 

And look how that turned out

Just like I said it would

 

Well 2-3 weeks ago lots of people on this board thought all he needed was a QB "whisperer" and he would be right in the hunt

I said he wouldnt ever play a down.

I don't even know what to say...