mrandyk Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 A Total Lie: Trump University ex-staffers condemn school as "fraudulent scheme" And people think this guy should be president. What a joke. You really have to be blind to support someone like this, someone so undeniably crooked and unfit for office. Link to comment
teachercd Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Sounds more like how InfoUSA used to be run! Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 A Total Lie: Trump University ex-staffers condemn school as "fraudulent scheme" And people think this guy should be president. What a joke. You really have to be blind to support someone like this, someone so undeniably crooked and unfit for office. Or you could get all sides of stories before you overreact. http://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-man-endorses-trump-university-lessons-2013-8 Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Or you could take a single anecdotal endorsement by a former student, declare it "the other side of the story" and ignore tons of troubling evidence to the contrary. 1 Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Or you could take a single anecdotal endorsement by a former student, declare it "the other side of the story" and ignore tons of troubling evidence to the contrary. It's definitely not the only endorsement. I've read four or five articles about this whole thing that are supposedly supposed to be mind blowing. All I've got to say is I went to college for four and a half years and didn't learn Jack squat about business or really anything extremely useful but since it's a societal Norm people don't complain about that. Now when it comes to Trump running a "university" to try to help people who have entrepreneurial ambition and are interested in learning about real estate, people think that they are walking into something that is guaranteed to make them money for whatever reason and don't realize that it takes application of those strategies to make the money. You could actually be open-minded and go research for yourself and find tons of people vouching for the program instead of being ignorant about the topic and taking the first negative thing that supports your viewpoint and running with it - but I understand that that's not what you people do here when it comes to Trump. I will say that asking people to take out loans against their home equity or asking them to max out their credit cards to pay for Trump University is a disagreeable tactic for sure that I do not support, but I will also say that was literally the only thing I took issue with in everything that I have read. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Sounds more like how InfoUSA used to be run! Did you work there or did you use it? Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/01/trump-university-students-speak-never-felt-pressured-offered-refunds/ From the article: She added, “I see and hear there are former Trump University students coming out and I have to sit back and think to myself, if they were given the same information, the same education, the same opportunity, how come they didn’t have the same results? And I think that’s because you have to take action upon yourself. You have to go out and make it happen.” Casey Hoban, who took Trump University classes with his business partner, is also featured in the video reminding people that the school gave people a chance to have a refund. “An interesting thing that they did when they started that class… they told us that if you feel you’re over your head or you feel you’re not going use these techniques then leave your books on the shelf, check out of the class now, and we’ll refund you…they gave people a chance to leave the class,” Hoban recalled. Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Wow does that sound scammy... Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I agree there's a rush to judgement on Donald Trump at the moment that borders on overkill, and some of it is certainly unfair. But take away all the smoke, and there's still a lot of fire. Really dire warnings from informed non-partisans. There are so many reasons not to trust this man with our country that it's kinda mind-blowing we're even having this discussion. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I agree there's a rush to judgement on Donald Trump at the moment that borders on overkill, and some of it is certainly unfair. But take away all the smoke, and there's still a lot of fire. Really dire warnings from informed non-partisans. There are so many reasons not to trust this man with our country that it's kinda mind-blowing we're even having this discussion. Honestly, what he says with his mouth is enough to go on. Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I agree there's a rush to judgement on Donald Trump at the moment that borders on overkill, and some of it is certainly unfair. But take away all the smoke, and there's still a lot of fire. Really dire warnings from informed non-partisans. There are so many reasons not to trust this man with our country that it's kinda mind-blowing we're even having this discussion. Even if it were so, look at your other option... That's more than enough reason to consider, well... About anyone else. Link to comment
teachercd Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Sounds more like how InfoUSA used to be run! Did you work there or did you use it? Worked there, I would never use it! I have a buddy that has lived through many of their "black Fridays" that they used to do. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I agree there's a rush to judgement on Donald Trump at the moment that borders on overkill, and some of it is certainly unfair. But take away all the smoke, and there's still a lot of fire. Really dire warnings from informed non-partisans. There are so many reasons not to trust this man with our country that it's kinda mind-blowing we're even having this discussion. Even if it were so, look at your other option... That's more than enough reason to consider, well... About anyone else. I'm having one hell of a problem figuring out which is worse. They both lie constantly and will say and do whatever it takes to reach their end goal no matter who stands in the way. And....both of them have this group of followers that keep trying their best to defend them. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 All I've got to say is I went to college for four and a half years and didn't learn Jack squat about business or really anything extremely useful but since it's a societal Norm people don't complain about that. Good thing there was The Apprentice and Shark Tank. Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I agree there's a rush to judgement on Donald Trump at the moment that borders on overkill, and some of it is certainly unfair. But take away all the smoke, and there's still a lot of fire. Really dire warnings from informed non-partisans. There are so many reasons not to trust this man with our country that it's kinda mind-blowing we're even having this discussion. Even if it were so, look at your other option... That's more than enough reason to consider, well... About anyone else. I'm having one hell of a problem figuring out which is worse. They both lie constantly and will say and do whatever it takes to reach their end goal no matter who stands in the way. And....both of them have this group of followers that keep trying their best to defend them. Actually when it comes to Trump he has a large group of people that will take any piece of information no matter how inaccurate or incomplete and try to run with it in order to bash him. All I know is - like referenced in the one article - if they really offered a full refund for anyone who was feeling overwhelmed in the course that should be the end of the entire case right there. Scams don't offer refunds. Based on everything that I have read, there is no reason for me to believe that Trump University was a Ponzi scheme to try to talk people out of their money. As far as the aggressive sales tactics, you could walk onto a car lot anywhere in the United States and get more aggressive sales tactics than that. Like I said, the only problem I have with everything that I have read on this entire case is that they encourage people to max out credit cards and take out home equity loans to pay for the University. Other than that, everything else points to good things with that program. So if you want to continue to use your blind hatred and take any piece of information no matter how inaccurate that supports your viewpoint that is your prerogative but I won't be joining you. Link to comment
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