The General Election

[huKSer]

BTW.....is there still anyone who doesn't think Trump any politician lies?

[HuskerShark]

 

 

 

 

 

You do realize that Trump has been caught lying one heck of a lot....right? I just find it funny when you accuse the other person of being so horrible because she lies than then fully support another friggen lier.

 

Or calling one out of touch with reality when the other wants to build a two thousand mile long wall...

1. What exactly has Trump flat out lied about and tried to hide? I'd like you to tell me that, because what I observe is that people who oppose Trump take every minor thing he does and blow it out of proportion and try to put it on level playing field with Hillary's garbage. They're not remotely on the same level. 2. I fully believe that when he becomes President, the wall will happen. And even if we get stuck paying for it, it's pennies compared to the trade deficit that he will help fix. Please answer #1. Thank you

He lied about making Mexico pay for his wall.He lied about the wall costing $4 billion.He lied about the wall ever being built.That's just off the top of my head. He knows very well that he's not going to do any of this. Yet he alleges they'll happen anyway. Those are lies.

LOL

So you've got nothing then?

Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies

 

 

From November, 2015 - Donald Trump’s 8 (Most Recent) Blatant Lies

 

Chronicling Donald Trump’s Lies

 

And pages and pages and pages of more - all with attribution.

I haven't read the others yet, but seriously? THIS is what you are basing your opinion of Trump on?

 

I'd like to fact check everyone's life on this board who is criticizing and picking him apart over minute details, all while we've got a person under federal investigation across the way.

 

Here are my views, which I will share with those of you who are berating me for my support of Trump, because frankly, I'm tired of hearing how in love I am with him.

 

1. Yes, he exaggerates a lot to get his point across. That is something that you just understand and accept when he says things. BTW, that's all that about 75% of the "101 lies" boiled down to - mere exaggeration. Boo Hoo.

 

2. Yes, his greatest weakness is that much too often he opens his mouth and expresses his opinion or something he has been told without doing his due diligence and fully understanding it. That is one of the main points that the RNC is trying to work with him on, and he absolutely needs to improve in that facet. In the past week, I believe he has already started working on that, and I think he will be just fine in that regard. This is his first time campaigning in the political arena, so he is learning as he goes in a lot of ways.

 

3. Yes, he has somewhat flawed character. As a Christian, I don't like that he thinks he doesn't need to ask for forgiveness, which speaks to his pride and ego, and I am not fooled one bit by his claim to be a strong Christian. I believe that he is Christian, but he is not firm in his faith and is not well versed in scripture whatsoever. That may be the part of him that I dislike the most, but I think we can compromise here because I know he will be firm and do what he feels is right for the largest amount of people in our country.

Along those same lines, I fully understand that he also has a history of somewhat questionable ethics in reference to basically screwing the contractors he hires out of some of the money that he agrees on. Once again, I'm waiting to see the other side to that story to see what actually happened, because the article written was obviously a very slanted hit piece, along the same lines as the Trump University article (which will end up being nothing) and the disrespecting women article (which actually ended up benefitting Trump greatly based on the dishonesty of the article).

 

So if those 3 things are the worst of his skeletons, I'm all in on a Trump presidency, and I feel that he is the strongest candidate I've seen since I've been able to vote. The things he is planning on doing will benefit the common worker, small business owner, and large business owner immensely. That's why I never understand when people view him as an authoritarian or dictator type of leader - because that perception is WAY off base. He is going to bring more power back to the state level like things should be.

[huKSer]

I don't know if I find this funny or sad.

 

LINK

 

If you click on Nebraska, it appears they haven't even tried to poll Nebraska and they have it as a lock for Trump.

None of the small states that are most likely Trump or Clinton have a poll (yet). Looks like Omaha's congressional electoral vote is leaning Trump

[HuskerShark]

Don't you think it's a lie if he borrows money knowing that he won't be able to pay it back and then negotiates for a lower payment?

That is quite possible the slimiest of slime ball business practices I have ever seen someone publicly brag about.

No, because your perception of it isn't true. When that situation has happened to him in the past, he doesn't borrow knowing up front that he won't be able to pay back the debt. But sometimes when taking large risks, sh*t happens. I know the average person doesn't want to hear that, but it happens all the time, and not just with Trump. Why? Because these big business people are the job creators. Without them, we would either be a socialist country, or we would simply have even less "good jobs" to go around.

[Guy Chamberlin]

 

 

 

 

And others feel the same about Obama and his insistence on bringing the issue of guns into these terror events, and his refusal to call out Radical Islam.

 

That's ridiculous. The U.S. has been raining death on 'radical Islam' for a long time, and will continue to do so regardless of who is President.

 

The reason you don't feed into the anti-Islam rhetoric is because this is also a war of ideas. If you truly believe that radicalization is the problem and not Islam, then you fight against that. America has been killing Muslisms for so long that it's awful easy to convince Muslisms that the West is out to get them. ISIS feeds on that. No thanks on giving them an assist.

 

 

It's not ridiculous. If the President is a smart man, he can easily call out Radical Islam while not referring to all Muslims. These same Islamic terrorists are killing tons of gays in Iran and the middle east as well. In order to beat the enemy, you have to define them and understand what drives them.

 

Like calling them "radical terrorists" that will be eliminated????

 

 

It's more than calling them radical terrorists, there needs to be better policies and strategies for taking the fight to ISIS. ISIS is a movement and it continues to grow. The same argument is made by the left suggesting that "gun control" would eliminate these types of events. It won't. The guy had a suicide vest on, and any person willing to kill themselves for the sake of their religion is willing to kill others regardless of whether its a gun, knife, bomb, chemical weapon, or airplane.

 

 

True, and nobody is saying it isn't complicated.

 

But when an airplane was used to kill people, everyone in America had to take off their shoes, their belts, empty their pockets, dump their shampoo bottles and submit to an xray before boarding a plane.

 

When guns kill exponentially more people on an annual basis, we don't do anything and aren't even allowed to have a debate because the NRA has purchased the narrative from our elected representatives, who no longer represent the expressed interest of their constituents on gun issues,

 

Looks like taking the fight to ISIS might not stop events like Orlando, either, as the suspect headed to the Gay Pride Parade in LA with an arsenal in his trunk was an Indiana dude named James Wesley Howell.

 

And you know what ISIS wants most? They want the U.S. to over-react against all Muslims. That's the only thing that could possibly unite the fractious Islamic factions and fuel their dreams of a caliphate. A long shot at best. But Donald Trump is their dream candidate.

[zoogs]

The global superpower U.S. can kill hundreds of thousands of terrorists without eradicating then, because new ones appear. They on the other hand don't have a shot of inflicting even close to similar casualty count on U.S. civilians.

 

Fortunately for them, it takes much less to get us to lose our minds and change our ways. Which really is their objective.

[Danny Bateman]

I've long worried about an extremist group like ISIL setting off attacks just to grow enough unrest to lay the seeds that lead to a President Trump. It's scary how capable and logically sound that course of action sounds to me right now.

 

Actually, Guy, Trump said none of this was complicated several times during his speech today, so I assume he has some magical book of secrets that spells out the keys to eradicating all terror in its current form tucked away somewhere... it's not complicated.

 

Lastly, how is this guy going to handle the crucible that is being the leader of the free world when he's flinched at Megyn Kelly and the Washington Post?

[Guy Chamberlin]

Trump is hitting home runs over and over again. Pundits and liberal 'news' speakers (they just don't rise up to the level of a reporter) keep trying to trash Trump and all he does is keep on speaking frankly and plainly telling it like it really is and cutting out all the political correct BS. It is quite refreshing actually. Trump simply says "I told you so!" and everybody cries foul! LOL It is amazing when he tells the truth and liberals just can't stand to hear it so they attack the messenger instead of in any rational way trying to rebut the message. They don't rebut the message because there are no rebuttals. The truth is the truth. Sometimes as the saying goes "the truth hurts". But you can't pretend it away. You must accept the facts and then think realistically on how to change them in an honest, truthful way.

 

When Trump speaks frankly and cuts out the political correctness, it doesn't mean he's being realistic, honest or truthful.

 

It just means he's saying what's on his mind. There's a difference.

 

And I'm not entirely convinced he believes it himself.

 

He's simply pandering to angry people who will never be swayed by facts, history and context, which aren't on his side. Honestly.

 

Donald Trump's self-congratulatory "I told you so" Tweet hours after the worst mass shooting in U.S. history was the shittiest thing this sick f#*k has said to date.

[Guy Chamberlin]

 

Lastly, how is this guy going to handle the crucible that is being the leader of the free world when he's flinched at Megyn Kelly and the Washington Post?

 

Like most bullies, Donald Trump is a coward at heart.

 

I don't think he really wanted to be president. Just craved the attention. He had the exact same schtick in 2012 before he dropped out early, claimed to have uncovered some really huge stuff on Obama's birth certificate, then never produced it.

 

Loves the attention. Hates the heavy lifting. Promises to come up with policies after we elect him.

 

Some speculate that Donald wanted to get off the train as it picked up steam in this election. Trump kept saying crazy sh#t that would have been campaign-ending gaffes for any other candidate. But his poll numbers kept going up. Now he's stuck having to look Presidential. He's not and he knows it. It's all bluster and cowardice.

 

It would make for great comedic satire if it wasn't so depressing.

[HuskerShark]

I have no idea what kind of garbage some people on this board are reading and watching in order to draw their opinions... It's freaking unreal honestly, and it's a total mind-f*ck on a daily basis...

[Danny Bateman]

Shark, you just did what is Trump's response to criticism in a bottle: he resorts to ad hominem attacks and tries his best to undermine the integrity and honesty of the source of the criticism. He rarely ever addresses the criticism itself, he just tries to slander whoever is levying it as dishonest or disgusting or what have you.

 

At what point does reporting a candidates own words and actions become disgusting and dishonest? It seems to me that particular line of a attack has a distinct fascist flavor to it. It's dishonest and disgusting simply because he doesn't like it.

 

Here is a brief history of Trump's stifling of free press during this election cycle.

[NM11046]

I have no idea what kind of garbage some people on this board are reading and watching in order to draw their opinions... It's freaking unreal honestly, and it's a total mind-f*ck on a daily basis...

I could not agree with you more. Honestly.

[HuskerShark]

Shark, you just did what is Trump's response to criticism in a bottle: he resorts to ad hominem attacks and tries his best to undermine the integrity and honesty of the source of the criticism. He rarely ever address the criticism itself, he just tries to slander whoever is levying it as dishonest or disgusting or what have you.

 

At what point does reporting a candidates own words and actions become disgusting and dishonest? It seems to me that particular line of a attack has a distinct fascist flavor to it. It's dishonest and disgusting simply because he doesn't like it.

 

Here is a brief history of Trump's stifling of free press during this election cycle.

 

I simply don't see it the same way as you. I've made my point multiple times in this thread, as well as the Republican election thread, and I'd be better off talking to a plant. It's funny what you say, because that's the only form of response I've gotten. No one knows why they think what they think, but they criticize my views because on this board, they're not popular. It's bullsh*t, but whatever.

 

I'm sorry he's not politically correct enough to fit into the narrow little "presidential" box that people expect him to fit into, but that's exactly his appeal to people right off hand. I've spelled out my understanding of his weaknesses, but his strengths far outweigh his weaknesses IMO. Sorry the radical opinions on this board (or however you could categorize it) don't accept that and decide to respond to me in excessively harsh ways. You people are allowed to have your opinions, but I'm tired of being sh*t on for supporting Trump. I (and millions of others in this country) think that people who support Bernie or Hillary are idiots too, so... Not sure what to say to closed-minded, overly PC people...

[HuskerNation1]

 

Shark, you just did what is Trump's response to criticism in a bottle: he resorts to ad hominem attacks and tries his best to undermine the integrity and honesty of the source of the criticism. He rarely ever address the criticism itself, he just tries to slander whoever is levying it as dishonest or disgusting or what have you.

 

At what point does reporting a candidates own words and actions become disgusting and dishonest? It seems to me that particular line of a attack has a distinct fascist flavor to it. It's dishonest and disgusting simply because he doesn't like it.

 

Here is a brief history of Trump's stifling of free press during this election cycle.

 

I simply don't see it the same way as you. I've made my point multiple times in this thread, as well as the Republican election thread, and I'd be better off talking to a plant. It's funny what you say, because that's the only form of response I've gotten. No one knows why they think what they think, but they criticize my views because on this board, they're not popular. It's bullsh*t, but whatever.

 

I'm sorry he's not politically correct enough to fit into the narrow little "presidential" box that people expect him to fit into, but that's exactly his appeal to people right off hand. I've spelled out my understanding of his weaknesses, but his strengths far outweigh his weaknesses IMO. Sorry the radical opinions on this board (or however you could categorize it) don't accept that and decide to respond to me in excessively harsh ways. You people are allowed to have your opinions, but I'm tired of being sh*t on for supporting Trump. I (and millions of others in this country) think that people who support Bernie or Hillary are idiots too, so... Not sure what to say to closed-minded, overly PC people...

 

 

Shark-I wouldn't worry too much about some of the lefties on here. They have the same fear of Trump now that we had of Obama in 2008. We said Obama would expand the size and scope of government, increase government dependence, and make us less safe against terrorism, and unfortunately all of that has come to fruition. The leftists are afraid of the country moving back to a center-right nation and will continue to demonize Trump as much as possible. Now I don't agree with some of Trump's provocative statements, but I know he'll be a thousand times better than Hillary.

[HuskerShark]

Bnil,

 

I don't get into the left, right, red, blue, Republican, Democrat thing. None of it matters, and i don't like labels. Honestly i voted for Obama in 08 because he was a really smooth talker and preached a positive message. It became pretty evident in his first term he wasn't doing what he said he'd do, so i voted against him.