Hunter94 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 www.yahoo.com/news/momma-goose-asks-officer-help-213100012.html funny how these things show up........ 1 Quote Link to comment
Joe_5700 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 After a quick Google search this dude also sued the City of Omaha over the salt it puts on the roads and some treatment it does to utility poles. Both of those claims got dismissed and I'm guessing this balloon one will as well. How's about all of the sand they dump in west Omaha? It is only needed on hills, and those trucks dump enough of it to make Omaha Beach. Not to mention how much gets in the garage, your house and making turns dangerous on two wheeled vehicles... Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 There is no evidence tying Nebraska's balloon release to any dead animals. Quote Link to comment
Bradr Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I have mixed feelings about this. I love the balloon release and the tradition behind it. It still gives me chills. On the other hand, there's no way this isn't negatively impacting the environment. In the scheme of things there are much worse things happening. But thinking this way is definitely a slippery slope. Every little peice adds up to making this place called earth more polluted. Definitely conflicted. There is no evidence tying Nebraska's balloon release to any dead animals. There's not much evidence of lit cigarette butts starting unintentional fires either. Probably still not a good idea to throw one into dry brush. 3 Quote Link to comment
Hooked on Huskers Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 In 1986, organizers with United Way of Cleveland thought they had the perfect idea to generate a little publicity and create a beautiful spectacle ...... released balloons. The stunt ended up costing the city of Cleveland and United Way hundreds in lawsuits. In one case, a woman’s horse was so spooked by the balloons, it seriously injured itself, and the owner sued for $100,000. LINK Quote Link to comment
shyndy Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I have mixed feelings about this. I love the balloon release and the tradition behind it. It still gives me chills. On the other hand, there's no way this isn't negatively impacting the environment. In the scheme of things there are much worse things happening. But thinking this way is definitely a slippery slope. Every little peice adds up to making this place called earth more polluted. Definitely conflicted. There is no evidence tying Nebraska's balloon release to any dead animals. There's not much evidence of lit cigarette butts starting unintentional fires either. Probably still not a good idea to throw one into dry brush. instead we just can hand out a bunch of birds that are spray painted red for people to release Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt316 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He would have a good point and position, but I'm pretty certain I have read that the balloons are bio-degradable. This has been addressed before and may not fair well for the university. Here is an article that shared this picture with the caption below. Link DEGRADABLE? Vogt buried this Husker balloon in his garden two years ago. He's not lying he knows how they work and is specifically manipulating the process trying to make a point. The way these balloons work is the latex used has a special chemical coating that increases it's degradation speed. That chemical process is activated by exposure to sunlight. So yeah if you bury one it is basically a regular balloon, but if you send them into the atmosphere.. which we do, they degrade. Quote Link to comment
Thanks_Tom RR Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He would have a good point and position, but I'm pretty certain I have read that the balloons are bio-degradable. This has been addressed before and may not fair well for the university. Here is an article that shared this picture with the caption below. Link DEGRADABLE? Vogt buried this Husker balloon in his garden two years ago. He's not lying he knows how they work and is specifically manipulating the process trying to make a point. The way these balloons work is the latex used has a special chemical coating that increases it's degradation speed. That chemical process is activated by exposure to sunlight. So yeah if you bury one it is basically a regular balloon, but if you send them into the atmosphere.. which we do, they degrade. Interesting. The way I read your comment is that as the balloons are floating in the atmosphere, which we release them into, they degrade. I doubt that is what you meant. My question is how long do they take to degrade if they are not buried? Also, do they have to remain in direct sunlight to degrade faster than normal latex balloons? Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt316 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He would have a good point and position, but I'm pretty certain I have read that the balloons are bio-degradable. This has been addressed before and may not fair well for the university. Here is an article that shared this picture with the caption below. Link DEGRADABLE? Vogt buried this Husker balloon in his garden two years ago. He's not lying he knows how they work and is specifically manipulating the process trying to make a point. The way these balloons work is the latex used has a special chemical coating that increases it's degradation speed. That chemical process is activated by exposure to sunlight. So yeah if you bury one it is basically a regular balloon, but if you send them into the atmosphere.. which we do, they degrade. Interesting. The way I read your comment is that as the balloons are floating in the atmosphere, which we release them into, they degrade. I doubt that is what you meant. My question is how long do they take to degrade if they are not buried? Also, do they have to remain in direct sunlight to degrade faster than normal latex balloons?I just knew how it works not much else so I looked it up. Looks loke it depends on the quality and how high they fly. They are designed to reach 28,000 ft. At which point they freeze and basically disitigrate. There seems to be a 1 in 500 failure rate to reach that altitude. A quality balloon that doesn't reach that height seems to take 6 months in indirect sunlight but in poor lighting a non quality balloon takes "as long as an oak leaf". That didn't sound bad to me... until I looked up how long an oak leaf lasts. An oak leaf can take 4 years to degrade. So.... yeah. Not great. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thanks_Tom RR Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He would have a good point and position, but I'm pretty certain I have read that the balloons are bio-degradable. This has been addressed before and may not fair well for the university. Here is an article that shared this picture with the caption below. Link DEGRADABLE? Vogt buried this Husker balloon in his garden two years ago. He's not lying he knows how they work and is specifically manipulating the process trying to make a point. The way these balloons work is the latex used has a special chemical coating that increases it's degradation speed. That chemical process is activated by exposure to sunlight. So yeah if you bury one it is basically a regular balloon, but if you send them into the atmosphere.. which we do, they degrade. Interesting. The way I read your comment is that as the balloons are floating in the atmosphere, which we release them into, they degrade. I doubt that is what you meant. My question is how long do they take to degrade if they are not buried? Also, do they have to remain in direct sunlight to degrade faster than normal latex balloons?I just knew how it works not much else so I looked it up. Looks loke it depends on the quality and how high they fly. They are designed to reach 28,000 ft. At which point they freeze and basically disitigrate. There seems to be a 1 in 500 failure rate to reach that altitude. A quality balloon that doesn't reach that height seems to take 6 months in indirect sunlight but in poor lighting a non quality balloon takes "as long as an oak leaf". That didn't sound bad to me... until I looked up how long an oak leaf lasts. An oak leaf can take 4 years to degrade. So.... yeah. Not great. Great information. Huskers release anywhere between 2,000 to 5,000 balloons per home game. Based on manufacture specs, 1:500 will reach the ground (the rest will disintegrate in the atmosphere). That's 4-10 per game that require 6 months to 4 years to degrade on the ground. It would be hard to determine how many degrade at the slow or fast rate. At worst, this means that 10 balloons for 7 home games per year during a 4 year period are littered on the ground. That's 280 balloons at any given moment in different stages of decay. Now, a fundamental question would be what is the environmental impact of 280 balloons spread from Nebraska to, allegedly, as far as the Gulf of Mexico, Great Lakes, and Atlantic Ocean (hundreds or thousands of miles away). Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What standing does this guy have? Citizen of the world? Can I sue anyone who pollutes "the environment" for damages? Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What standing does this guy have? Citizen of the world? Can I sue anyone who pollutes "the environment" for damages? probably........or who shares the public bathroom with you............lol Quote Link to comment
SUHperman Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What standing does this guy have? Citizen of the world? Can I sue anyone who pollutes "the environment" for damages? Lol this was my exact thought as well. Guy just seems like a douche. Quote Link to comment
wanderful Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 What standing does this guy have? Citizen of the world? Can I sue anyone who pollutes "the environment" for damages?Lol this was my exact thought as well. Guy just seems like a douche. Orly Taitz springs to mind, though I'm guessing she and this guy have opposing political positions. Quote Link to comment
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