Moiraine Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I don't even agree with the Martinez avoiding contact perspective. Remember his freshman year when nobody could ever actually bring him to the ground? 2-3 times per game he'd get stopped and stood up, and eventually swarmed with the play blown dead while Taylor is still standing up right with five defenders pushing him backwards. Later on he tried taking coaching to avoid contact, for sure, but never seemed natural with it. I guess what I remember most (with the contact) is him slowing down as a defender was about to hit him and trying to cover himself, and then getting hit harder for it. Instead of just trying to plow through defenders. Martinez was tough in that he played injured but as far as being tough and running through defenders he didn't do that much. He usually either ran past them or took a big hit. Quote Link to comment
dvdcrr Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Martinez' coaches failed him to a degree either that or he was somewhat uncoachable or maybe both. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Martinez' coaches failed him to a degree either that or he was somewhat uncoachable or maybe both. It seems they told him to avoid contact after the first year and that's when he started doing that little shuffle step and crouch that he always did right before getting decimated. 1 Quote Link to comment
fb30 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Ya I remember him about to be hit and completely stopping. The defender just blew him up. The poor guy. I always thought they should have beefed him up a little. Quote Link to comment
TonyStalloni Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Tm was not that big a guy. I don't know what his listed size was but my son saw him in a bar once and said he was pretty small. His body would never have stood up to full contact on most plays. Quote Link to comment
Husker_luver Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Not sure about the best but Martinez was the most explosive. 1 Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 They've all been entertaining in their own ways. Frazier was the master of running the option and could make guys miss once he got loose. Crouch's breakaway speed was awesome to watch. Frost was a bulldozer who would put his head down instead of sliding. I don't think I remember ever seeing him slide before a tackle. Martinez had great uncanny break away speed. I think Frazier and Frost were the most fun to watch for me actually just because of their styles. I also liked watching Mickey Joseph run the option and he was a pretty solid runner as a QB too imo. Quote Link to comment
The Duke Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 1) Eric Crouch - Best blend of pure speed, agility & power. Crouch's East-West speed & agility was just as fast as his North-South speed. Mind boggling talent. I guarantee if Osborne would have stuck around for 4 more years Crouch would have won at least 1 National Championship. 2) Tommie Frazier - Field General. Option maestro. 3) Scott Frost - A freight train of a runner. No-quit attitude. 4) Turner Gill - Unflinching, smooth option operator. 5)Tie between Gerry Gdowski & Jamal Lord - Probably two of the most underrated running QB's in Nebraska history. 6) Taylor Martinez - His East-West speed/agility wasn't that great, however his North-South speed was sensational. 3 Quote Link to comment
Elf Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Gill was a master of the option game and a very smooth operator in general but he clearly wasn't a better runner than Frost or Martinez. A better passer? For sure. I think Turner Gill was better all around, running and passing than Frost or Martinez. Martinez imo, was basically a North/South runner. His biggest assets were his speed and acceleration. I think Gill was an even better option qb than Frazier was. Gill was a total badass, although I think these days the correct term is "baller". If Turner Gill would've had the same quality defense Frazier had, he would've won national titles as well. Of course, we could argue this all week long, and I'm ok with that. 1 Quote Link to comment
LJsurf41 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Pure Running: Crouch Frazier Frost Taylor Lord (I leave TM off because I think he was more of an avoider of contact than the other guys. Esp Frazier, Frost and Taylor who were just as ok running through the tackle or running around it - you rarely saw those guys take the sideline. Armstrong is a very good runner but he isn't an every down type runner that these others were called to be in the option set. Even if the QB wasn't caring the ball, they set themselves up to get hit on most plays. ) Option: Frazier Frost Gill Gdowski Taylor These guys ran the option like a well oiled machine. Crouch - too many fumbles that is why I dropped him off the list. I concur Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 ouch whyd you have to post that? I forgot all about how Roy Williams made Groce his bitch that night. That was tough to watch. Quote Link to comment
NUinID Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 ouch whyd you have to post that? I forgot all about how Roy Williams made Groce his bitch that night. That was tough to watch. I was at that game, Lord was a warrior in that game. Chris Simms never played that well in any other game in his college or pro career. Quote Link to comment
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