Danny Bateman Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm pleased that Trumpism isn't winning. But, these wins have been in areas where the Dems typically do OK. The big test will be if they can win some elections in the middle of the country and more rural areas. Looking at the Virginia map, it's clear that Dems won the urban areas and Repubs won the rural areas. That divide is still very clear in America. Fair enough, but the VA House is gerrymandered to hell, so for them to tie it is a rather big accomplishment. They don't typically do that well in such a rigged House map, so I was pretty happy to see that. I agree. They'll need to play better in rural areas for lower office and in the Midwest. There's still a strong cultural identification with Trumpism for many in these parts that will be a tough obstacle. But they seem to have gotten the message that they need to run people in all those places to win. I agree with what Red said. Northam's win was within the expected range, even though he outperformed all polls by a good margin except Quinnipiac. The president's party usually uses seats in off years. But Dem voters are also notoriously lazy in off years as well. I'm really excited to see them mobilize. I do think this is still a strong repudiation of Trump, though, as well. Gillispie hugged him tightly culturally and lost solidly. Also, this: 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, QMany said: I don't think you're going to see extreme flips in rural parts of the country. I think you are going to see widespread shift that is going to flip swing districts. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/08/us/politics/virginia-governor-results-analysis.html Comparing the 2017 and 2013 VA Gubernational elections: Northam (D) got 5.9% more of the vote than McAuliffe (D). 368,011 more people voted this year. Northam (D) got 335,152 more votes than McAuliffe (D). Ed Gillispie (R) had almost identical % of votes as Cuccinelli (R), 45.1% and 45.2% respectively. Those % increases and voter turnout increases are really good signs for Democrats. Great post. Thanks Q. Dems finally mobilized their voters in a way they haven't done in a long time. They fell into some really poor habits with Obama because he was so charismatic that their top-down approach to the party worked - they largely neglected local/state races because Obama's coattails were long enough to pull them along to gain seats. But they got destroyed in off years and those local/state parties suffered. I'm glad to see they're building from the ground up and doing it the right way. This is the only way for them to cut into the urban/rural divide which is becoming an increasing problem in terms of the Congress. Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 This is a bad, bad, bad, lazy take. A pretty significant statewide victory for the Democrats is going to translate into a roughly 50/50 legislature -- which, entering last night, was 66-34 R. Virginia is not a 66-34 R state, and it was not for the pass however long, either. And yet... 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, zoogs said: This is a bad, bad, bad, lazy take. A pretty significant statewide victory for the Democrats is going to translate into a roughly 50/50 legislature -- which, entering last night, was 66-34 R. Virginia is not a 66-34 R state, and it was not for the pass however long, either. And yet... Literally just posted the same thought over in Gerrymandering thread... Needless to say, you're right. Barro is way off base. Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Edited November 8, 2017 by schriznoeder 2 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Probably not popular, but science says, xy=male xx=female Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, schriznoeder said: In an additional karmic twist, Robert Marshall had previously introduce a transgender bathroom bill (the bill never made it out of committee). 1 Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, RedDenver said: In an additional karmic twist, Robert Marshall had previously introduce a transgender bathroom bill (the bill never made it out of committee). That's the best part of this whole story. 2 Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Dbqgolfer said: Probably not popular, but science says, xy=male xx=female Probably not accurate. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/ https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943 Scientists that actually study such things have discovered that it really isn't that simple. many people, perhaps up to 1% or 2% of the human population, have some form of DSD (Disorder of Sex Development) where their anatomy does not match their chromosomes. There are many things that affect the development of sexual anatomy, and your chromosomes are only one of them. Also, scientists have discovered through DNA sequencing that most people have a patchwork of genetically distinct cells, some with chromosomes that are either xx or xy. This can have wide-ranging impacts on your biology. There is a lot more to say on the subject, but at least consider that many scientists no longer think of sex as a simple binary system. More like a spectrum. 2 Link to comment
commando Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Dbqgolfer said: Probably not popular, but science says, xy=male xx=female sorry to burst your bubble...but this administration has declared that science is fake news. 1 Link to comment
Huskerzoo Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Dbqgolfer said: Probably not popular, but science says, xy=male xx=female Did you know that science is a lot more complex than that? I'd be happy to recap all the genetic, genitals, psychological, hormonal, and social factors that play into it. I just lectured on it today. 5 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 wasn't sure where to post this but I saw this the other night and thought it was hilarious! 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 good frighten lord.... After multiple democrats and media have come out claiming he should have resigned. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I think Hillary is going to try to run again in 2020. Link to comment
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