knapplc Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 But then again I don't feel entitled to anything. What do people who oppose Donald Trump feel entitled to? 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 But then again I don't feel entitled to anything.What do people who oppose Donald Trump feel entitled to? Hopefully their rights Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I will just say you wouldn't see me coming out and reacting like this had Clinton lost to McCain, or Romney, or Jeb Bush. I respect all of those men, even if I disagree with them. Trump is perhaps the most dangerous, demagogic, unqualified candidate we've ever elected to this post. I think he is uniquely unfit for the title he's about to assume. It will have major implications on every American's life if I am correct. So excuse me if I ignore you while you lob accusations about being a sore loser my way. 5 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I will just say you wouldn't see me coming out and reacting like this had Clinton lost to McCain, or Romney, or Jeb Bush. I respect all of those men, even if I disagree with them. Trump is perhaps the most dangerous, demagogic, unqualified candidate we've ever elected to this post. I think he is uniquely unfit for the title he's about to assume. It will have major implications on every American's life if I am correct. So excuse me if I ignore you while you lob accusations about being a sore loser my way. Completely agree with this. Not sure how people don't see the difference here. 2 Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 It's why the, "There weren't reactions like this when Obama was elected" argument is such a frustrating logical fallacy. Because first of all there were, and second of all, the reactions aren't based on a common denominator as simple as, "We didn't get our way." They are based on the very specifically unique and exclusive circumstances surrounding one Donald J. Trump. 2 Link to comment
Apathy Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm still seeing a hate crime being performed in front of our very eyes Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Certainly a horrendous crime centered around a bias, at the very least. Whether it's a hate crime would be very tough to prove, legally at least: A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, the FBI has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.” Hate itself is not a crime—and the FBI is mindful of protecting freedom of speech and other civil liberties. They seem to very explicitly, per their language, be assaulting him because of who he voted for. People can argue back and forth forever about whether there is a racial element at play indirectly, which there probably is, but that wouldn't be able to be proved in court, I don't think, and if we're not talking about the legal definition, then what's the point of worrying about the label? It's no less awful or hateful if it isn't called a 'hate' crime. Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 This is the first time I can recall you denouncing a hate crime on this board, dewiz. 1 Link to comment
Apathy Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 This is the first time I can recall you denouncing a hate crime on this board, dewiz.Ya cause it is. What other events are you referring to where I didn't denounce it as a hate crime? Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-available There were plenty to choose from. Of course, you have to be willing to see them first. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I don't think you have to worry about us uppity, self-righteous liberals not denouncing this violence, if that was the implication here. I mean, uppity and self-righteous. It's in the dang job description Link to comment
Apathy Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-available There were plenty to choose from. Of course, you have to be willing to see them first. And here I thought you were going to bring up a thread or conversation here on Huskerboard. Boy was I way off. Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-available There were plenty to choose from. Of course, you have to be willing to see them first. And here I thought you were going to bring up a thread or conversation here on Huskerboard. Boy was I way off. I think the implication is that it doesn't seem like you really care about hate crimes being committed, except for this one instance. We're all a bit curious why that is. Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Speaking of crimes between the two voter pools. Unsurprisingly, it's not just Hillary supporters bashing Trump supporters. This is just as deplorable as the sitch in the OP. You can't beat on someone because they voted differently than you. Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Obama's campaign and platform weren't built around being anti-Muslim, anti-Mexican, anti-LGBTQ, anti-women's rights, or anti-white, so it makes sense that people weren't as worked up. Obama is a cool, collected and articulate man with no scandals, no grudges, and a message of optimism. The only ways people could get really riled up by him are political, not "I'm scared that I'm going to be deported or assaulted in the streets" kind of personal. That being said, violence always needs to be condemned regardless of who it's perpetrated by and who it's towards. The Chicago man who allegedly voted for Trump being beaten is awful and inexcusable, as are death threats towards anyone. Exactly. The massive false equivalency by Trump voters in this case is appalling. There weren't demonstrations in the street because Obama isn't even remotely close to the shitbag-type of human being that Donald Trump is. Link to comment
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