Utter

[zoogs]

When I saw that video on Twitter yesterday I thought it was spotlighting #68. He was pretty uninvolved on the play.

 

Not to state the obvious, but given that Utter had such a poor outing, hopefully they figure out a way to get him going again for the next one. OL recruiting, in general, NU's got to make that a priority. It's something where the payoff is always down the line since typically players come in and take a year, at least.

[cm husker]

Georgia Tech has 3 true freshman, a back up junior and a sophomore starting on the OL against a well-regarded Va Tech front. They went for 300+ rushing with a backup QB who was 2 for 7 throwing it.

 

Georgia Tech hasn't been great this year, but anyone who doesn't believe you can be successful running against "better" teams because you're young or inexperienced or a backup doesn't understand what scheme can do to cover up deficiencies.

 

 

Ask yourself this - could the Ohio St staff take this same group of players and get more production out of them?

[fb30]

Ya I could. MRI. Was Knevel a scholarship player? Watch him in the Wisconsin game again.

[husker98]

Utter's issues revolve around poor technique and fundamentals. He's a great guy who busts his ass but like a lot of the other guys who harken back form the previous staff they are not fundamentally sound. He's better than he was but i don't think we will see him get to much better unless he makes major strides in his technique.

[cm husker]

Now even garrison is being thrown under the bus. It's amazing to me that two springs and two falls in, people still want to blame the prior staff for development.

[AFhusker]

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

 

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

 

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

[shyndy]

Georgia Tech has 3 true freshman, a back up junior and a sophomore starting on the OL against a well-regarded Va Tech front. They went for 300+ rushing with a backup QB who was 2 for 7 throwing it.

 

Georgia Tech hasn't been great this year, but anyone who doesn't believe you can be successful running against "better" teams because you're young or inexperienced or a backup doesn't understand what scheme can do to cover up deficiencies.

 

 

Ask yourself this - could the Ohio St staff take this same group of players and get more production out of them?

absolutely. And our previous staff could take it and manage more losses.

[ColoradoHusk]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

 

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

 

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

 

I understand that with Decker. Barnett seems like a bust so far.

[Savage Husker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

I understand that with Decker. Barnett seems like a bust so far.

If that's true about Decker, and I agree it's understandable, but can't we then put him on medical hardship and open a spot up? Can still receive his scholarship and finish school without counting against the limit, correct?

[ColoradoHusk]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

I understand that with Decker. Barnett seems like a bust so far.

If that's true about Decker, and I agree it's understandable, but can't we then put him on medical hardship and open a spot up? Can still receive his scholarship and finish school without counting against the limit, correct?

 

Yes, they would be able to do that, but really can't do too much with him this season.

[Savage Husker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

I understand that with Decker. Barnett seems like a bust so far.

If that's true about Decker, and I agree it's understandable, but can't we then put him on medical hardship and open a spot up? Can still receive his scholarship and finish school without counting against the limit, correct?

Yes, they would be able to do that, but really can't do too much with him this season.

For sure.

[Swiv3D]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

Just simply asking, but where'd you hear Barnett is up that high in weight? I had a class with him last year and I've seen him around this year. He doesn't really look that much different size wise.

[cm husker]

CM is only trying to offset his own stupidity and his own ignorance, both of which are obvious to wven the most rare of reader, by taking this fake, self riteous, highand mightier than thou, defend the players at all costs approach.

Any time you want to compare football credentials rather than levy personal attacks, let me know in a PM.

[cm husker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd need to see the tape. But it's kind of incredible that a guy so supposedly bad would start about 23 games at this point.

 

People see a couple of bad plays and jump all over a guy while ignoring what is done well.

 

If we are so weak in passpro, maybe we should give these guys a better shot by running more and using true play action. That would take a lot of pressure off guys like utter.

The coaches have to start 5 players on the o-line. Utter is not good, but he's the only guy who can do the job this year. That's why he's been starting for 2 years.

How can he possibly be the only guy who can do the job?

The previous staff didn't build any depth along the offensive line. Pretty obvious.

Look at NUs recruiting on the OL during the past few years. Compared to most other P5 schools, it's been very good from a recruitnik perspective.

 

This staff isn't really changing the approach/numbers, so if they don't have enough depth to be successful today, I'm left wondering why anyone thinks they'll have enough 4 years from now.

Pelini and his staff whiffed on their o-line recruiting in 2012 and 2013. Those guys didn't develop anywhere near to be good enough.

 

The 2015 class for Riley (and Pelini) is concerning because of Decker and Barnett not being able to contribute this year.

 

The 2016 class for Riley could be playing as true freshmen, and there is a valid argument for this (I have made it!!!), but the lack of a scholarship center that is a senior or junior this year is on Pelini and his staff.

Decker has concussion issues and is too scared to play anymore. Barnett is eating himself out of a scholarship as is weighting around 360-370lbs. With that said Utter is terrible and it shows how bad recruiting was under Pelini/Cotton for the OL.

Just simply asking, but where'd you hear Barnett is up that high in weight? I had a class with him last year and I've seen him around this year. He doesn't really look that much different size wise.

I'm guessing most reports are fabricated or exaggerated.

 

We know why we arent seeing him on the field. Cavanaugh has a very specific philosophy about substitution, or lack thereof.

[SouthLincoln Husker]

 

Georgia Tech has 3 true freshman, a back up junior and a sophomore starting on the OL against a well-regarded Va Tech front. They went for 300+ rushing with a backup QB who was 2 for 7 throwing it.

 

Georgia Tech hasn't been great this year, but anyone who doesn't believe you can be successful running against "better" teams because you're young or inexperienced or a backup doesn't understand what scheme can do to cover up deficiencies.

 

 

Ask yourself this - could the Ohio St staff take this same group of players and get more production out of them?

absolutely. And our previous staff could take it and manage more losses.

 

No way! Utter is bigger than the pillsbury dough boy. He got pushed all over the field last night. We have 2 guys on our line that are worth a crap.