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15 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, when they influenced the election to give him the win, he needed to send an olive branch?

 

is attempting to tear apart NATO part of that olive branch?

Do you think we should be the only one to fund NATO?  NATO has been a joke for years and all they do is spend spend OUR MONEY!  Those SOCIALIST Nations just trying to tear our country down DOLLAR BY DOLLAR.  By the way the NATO top dog just testified before congress.  Check this out.  https://video.foxnews.com/v/6022122128001/#sp=show-clips

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40 minutes ago, MNBigRedNorth said:

 

That's your opinion, not mine.  He's been for tougher on Russian than Obama ever was.  Sure at the beginning he eased sanctions to send an olive branch, but as soon as Russia crossed the line the slapped back immediately.  How many of their embassies and Russian Nationals did he send home and also attempting to take gas business away from Russia and hit them in the pocket book which is far worse than sanctions most of the time.  When did any president ever do that?  Tell the whole story, not just the one from the first month of two!

 

1 hour ago, commando said:

letting them all come back to the closed russian safehouses in the us.....giving syria to the russians, trying to get us out of nato for russias benefit, easing sanctions, expelled a bunch of russians but let russia immediately replace those positions that were expelled, etc....

 

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

 

Multiple closed-door meetings with Putin without any US officials there to guide him, destroying the notes of those meetings, hosting Russians in the White House without US officials present, etc...

For the record, nothing I said was opinion, I was asking you a question. As for telling the whole story and not just one side from the first month or two, Trump has shown a pattern of behavior towards that is at least a little alarming in my view, and not because he has been too harsh.

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I actually don't mind Trump pressing NATO allies to contribute more and not just assume our largesse.

 

In other news: take everything Russia-related off the table, and there's still a rich tapestry of corruption, ineptitude, and willful cruelty to make the case that Donald Trump is a truly awful President. 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Just wanted to mention that it's really refreshing to see someone who was once a Trump supporter admit they decided to smell the coffee and pay attention to what the guy (and those around him) actually do instead of what they say.

 

It brings me no pleasure to say it but our current administration has burnt their credibility and it's hard to believe a single thing POTUS or anyone else tells the American public.

 

I've also enjoyed your input ITT today, FWIW. Carry on.

Did you decided he had no credit ability the second he had the R behind his name?  I say it's refreshing to see so many African Americans walk away from the party that has depressed them for so long. He had about 8% of the vote in the election and polling now shows he has 18% support and it's also refreshing to see that the latest polling showing that 48% of the Latino's in our country now support President Trump and that has about doubled from 2016.  You wondering why this is so?  Well it's called good paying jobs and also the fact that wages are actually growing at a faster pace than inflation.  Real jobs growth and real wage growth.  But then again many don't know that because the MSM refuses to report it!  This next election is going to be a Trump win in a huge landslide!  You may not, but a vast majority in American vote with their pocket book and since Trump has been elected my personal wage growth has been near $10,000 over the last two years, not to say that my retirement fund is growing far faster than I could have imagined!

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4 minutes ago, MNBigRedNorth said:

Here are the stats and where this came from:  https://www.statista.com/chart/14636/defense-expenditures-of-nato-countries/ Now does this look equitable?

Infographic: Defense Expenditures Of NATO Countries  | Statista

You said we were the only one to fund NATO. Your graphic shows that’s false. 

 

Now, I agree we should t be funding as much. But, a heck of a lot of that is because of internal politics. This is based on how much each nation spends on defense. So, there are two parts to the equation, what we spend and what everyone else spends. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/how-nato-budget-is-funded-2018-7

 

eveeyone is supposed to spend 2%. Why are we spending 3.5%?

 

Trump has increased our defense spending. So, he himself has helped this equation become so lop sided. 

 

Why are we spending 54% of our budget on defense?

 

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/

 

we have the largest economy in the world and we spend 3.5 % of that on military. 

 

Why?

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I actually don't mind Trump pressing NATO allies to contribute more and not just assume our largesse.

 

In other news: take everything Russia-related off the table, and there's still a rich tapestry of corruption, ineptitude, and willful cruelty to make the case that Donald Trump is a truly awful President. 

 

 

Well that's your opinion and hey I'm fine with that,  I just don't see it, when comparing what our country went through with Obama.  In retrospect, I'm not real happy with Bush either at this point.  Although 911 happened of which I don't fault him for that, I wish he would have just gone all out and cleaned that hen house out completely and not left the void of power.  The after math of War is always the most costly part. (Not to down play the lose of life fighting the war.) It was the filling the power void and rebuilding lives and nations and the half a$$ way that was done!  Hey I know Trump is rough around the edges and he's not afraid to duke it out, but you know what, I kind of like it.  Why the heck do our leaders have to lead in the old paradigm of the corrupt PC world.  

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6 minutes ago, MNBigRedNorth said:

Did you decided he had no credit ability the second he had the R behind his name?  I say it's refreshing to see so many African Americans walk away from the party that has depressed them for so long. He had about 8% of the vote in the election and polling now shows he has 18% support and it's also refreshing to see that the latest polling showing that 48% of the Latino's in our country now support President Trump and that has about doubled from 2016.  You wondering why this is so?  Well it's called good paying jobs and also the fact that wages are actually growing at a faster pace than inflation.  Real jobs growth and real wage growth.  But then again many don't know that because the MSM refuses to report it!  This next election is going to be a Trump win in a huge landslide!  You may not, but a vast majority in American vote with their pocket book and since Trump has been elected my personal wage growth has been near $10,000 over the last two years, not to say that my retirement fund is growing far faster than I could have imagined!

He probably decided Trump had no credibility after the millionth lie  told. Seriously, its fine if you support Trump because of the economy, but lets not act like he isn't a lying machine. He is corrupt as all get out and he doesn't hide it very well. There are reasons people dislike Trump and it has nothing to do with his party affiliation.

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2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

You said we were the only one to fund NATO. Your graphic shows that’s false. 

 

Now, I agree we should t be funding as much. But, a heck of a lot of that is because of internal politics. This is based on how much each nation spends on defense. So, there are two parts to the equation, what we spend and what everyone else spends. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/how-nato-budget-is-funded-2018-7

 

eveeyone is supposed to spend 2%. Why are we spending 3.5%?

 

Trump has increased our defense spending. So, he himself has helped this equation become so lop sided. 

 

Why are we spending 54% of our budget on defense?

 

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/

 

we have the largest economy in the world and we spend 3.5 % of that on military. 

 

Why?

 

 

 

 

My wording should have been better.  My fault.  I knew others were paying, but now were on the same page with this item.  I'm not so concerned that we are spending what we are, I just want others spend what they should, so we can take care of our own first, and not be relied on solely to care of others.  We are basically in agreement on this.

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5 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

He probably decided Trump had no credibility after the millionth lie  told. Seriously, its fine if you support Trump because of the economy, but lets not act like he isn't a lying machine. He is corrupt as all get out and he doesn't hide it very well. There are reasons people dislike Trump and it has nothing to do with his party affiliation.

Well you see lies, I don't.  Is every politician a saint?  I don't know one that is.  Now that is just an observation of politics in general.  Trump does like to have his say, just like Obama, Bush and Clinton did.  I just don't see much difference in any of them.  Trump is just more effect and gets under the skin of his detractors more than presidents in the past, so they see lies and jump at ever little bitty thing they can and the fact that he is not from the swamp gets to them.  Does anyone here think that Washington DC is a swamp of corruption and deceit?  Is it odd to you that politician go to DC with no money and come out millionaires for the most part?  President Trump is the anti to this paradigm.  So everyone there hates this, because the gravy train is in jeopardy. He wants to drain the swamp.  Do you want the swamp to remain?  I ask these questions to anyone on the board.  This isn't directed to you alone Nebfanatic.  

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12 minutes ago, MNBigRedNorth said:

My wording should have been better.  My fault.  I knew others were paying, but now were on the same page with this item.  I'm not so concerned that we are spending what we are, I just want others spend what they should, so we can take care of our own first, and not be relied on solely to care of others.  We are basically in agreement on this.

You do realize that even if we don’t increase our spending more and others get to the 2%, it’s still going to be extremely lop sides, right?

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3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

You do realize that even if we don’t increase our spending more and others get to the 2%, it’s still going to be extremely lop sides, right?

Of course, but they need to do this to show their commitment to their defense.  Look at Germany and Italy.  They should be there.  It's those nations that tic me off. The smaller nations I kind of understand.

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2 minutes ago, MNBigRedNorth said:

Well you see lies, I don't.  Is every politician a saint?  I don't know one that is.  Now that is just an observation of politics in general.  Trump does like to have his say, just like Obama, Bush and Clinton did.  I just don't see much difference in any of them.  Trump is just more effect and gets under the skin of his detractors more than presidents in the past, so they see lies and jump at ever little bitty thing they can and the fact that he is not from the swamp gets to them.  Does anyone here think that Washington DC is a swamp of corruption and deceit?  Is it odd to you that politician go to DC with no money and come out millionaires for the most part?  President Trump is the anti to this paradigm.  So everyone there hates this, because the gravy train is in jeopardy. He wants to drain the swamp.  Do you want the swamp to remain?  I ask these questions to anyone on the board.  This isn't directed to you alone Nebfanatic.  

I don't care about past presidents, I care about this one. Draining the swamp? Please! He has brought how many criminals along with him? Appointed how many unqualified officials? He is adding to the swamp at a record pace. Enough with this he is rich so out of the good of his heart he became president. Do you know how many days he has spent at Trump properties since being elected? Do you know how many times foriegn officials have stayed at Trump properties since he has taken office? He is still making money from his hotels and resorts. This is egregious corruption and you are fine with it because thats politics? Its all good because Trump is draining the swamp? Who has he drained out? 

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