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Player: Thomas Grayson

Hometown: Tulsa, Oklahoma

School: Booker T. Washington

Position: Running Back

Height: 6-0

Weight: 190

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Offers: Arkansas State, Eastern Michigan, Nebraska, Syracuse, Tennessee, Texas Tech, Tulsa

Visits: 4/7/18 - Junior Day; 4/21/18 - Spring Game

 

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247 Composite: #1184 Overall; #86 RB; .8411

 

Rivals: :star:star 
247: #67 RB; :star:star:star 
ESPN: #57 RB; :star:star:star 

 

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7 minutes ago, Mavric said:

Sounds like he'll be here for Junior Day this weekend.

Why do you say, "Sounds like...."?  I assume you read something that would indicate what you are posting.  Is it against the rules to say, " (publication) is reporting that X-player will be attending X event." ?

 

Just curious.  And this is not a knock on you personally. I've seen other people on here do this.  Just never understood why.

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39 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Why do you say, "Sounds like...."?  I assume you read something that would indicate what you are posting.  Is it against the rules to say, " (publication) is reporting that X-player will be attending X event." ?

 

Just curious.  And this is not a knock on you personally. I've seen other people on here do this.  Just never understood why.

 

In this particular case, I wasn't 100% sure that he was actually visiting or just "trying to make it".

 

In general, it's mostly to try to stay as far away from re-posting subscription-required content as possible.

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27 minutes ago, Warrior10 said:

Fong with the CB.

Ben Fong-Torres of Rolling Stone F*ing Magazine? Maybe a little out of his depth, but I'll take it!

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24 minutes ago, Thanks_Tom RR said:

Ben Fong-Torres of Rolling Stone F*ing Magazine? Maybe a little out of his depth, but I'll take it!

Get out

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Actually really excited about him.  Won’t be shocked if the big hitters in the Big 12 eventually come calling.

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Broke an ankle so there’s only one full year of highlights available.  Expect his rating to be bumped “significantly”.

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My thoughts:

 

More impressed with his film than I expected to be based on his ratings

Was a 10.8 100 meter guy as a freshman.  Doesn't appear blindingly fast on film but that's pretty good for a guy now pushing 200 pounds

Tougher runner than I expected for a guy that fast

Would like to see more elusiveness - not a dynamic cutter.  But also missed his sophomore season with a broken ankle so perhaps between that and being a speed guy he hasn't had to develop his cutting ability that much.

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13 minutes ago, Mavric said:

My thoughts:

 

More impressed with his film than I expected to be based on his ratings

Was a 10.8 100 meter guy as a freshman.  Doesn't appear blindingly fast on film but that's pretty good for a guy now pushing 200 pounds

Tougher runner than I expected for a guy that fast

Would like to see more elusiveness - not a dynamic cutter.  But also missed his sophomore season with a broken ankle so perhaps between that and being a speed guy he hasn't had to develop his cutting ability that much.

I watched the first play of his Junior highlights and stopped. Grayson sprinted pass a guy that was in a full gallup about 2 yards ahead of him with a good angle. All the evidence for speed you need right there.

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2 minutes ago, Thanks_Tom RR said:

I watched the first play of his Junior highlights and stopped. Grayson sprinted pass a guy that was in a full gallup about 2 yards ahead of him with a good angle. All the evidence for speed you need right there.

 

First, forming an opinion based on one example is a bad plan, anywhere in life.

 

Second, I'm not sure I'd classify that as "sprinted pass [sic] a guy".  He out-ran him by roughly 4 yards over 50.  He was faster, but not drastically faster.

 

Third, it depends on how good/fast that other player was.  If he was a five-star guy, I'm sold.  If he's a run-of-the-mill high schooler, that's not saying much.

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23 minutes ago, Mavric said:

My thoughts:

 

More impressed with his film than I expected to be based on his ratings

Was a 10.8 100 meter guy as a freshman.  Doesn't appear blindingly fast on film but that's pretty good for a guy now pushing 200 pounds

Tougher runner than I expected for a guy that fast

Would like to see more elusiveness - not a dynamic cutter.  But also missed his sophomore season with a broken ankle so perhaps between that and being a speed guy he hasn't had to develop his cutting ability that much.

Staff did ask Bell to try and outrun guys rather than cut them up so maybe they aren't as concerned about it in this system as others may be.

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1 minute ago, Mavric said:

 

First, forming an opinion based on one example is a bad plan, anywhere in life.

 

Second, I'm not sure I'd classify that as "sprinted pass [sic] a guy".  He out-ran him by roughly 4 yards over 50.  He was faster, but not drastically faster.

 

Third, it depends on how good/fast that other player was.  If he was a five-star guy, I'm sold.  If he's a run-of-the-mill high schooler, that's not saying much.

I agree with all of your points. I was being hyperbolic to make the point that he looks fast on film. That first play was pretty sweet though.

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The guy has excellent speed.   Watch the highlight films.   He takes plenty of plays from deep in the backfield to the races within about 15 yards past line of scrimmage.  Best attribute is his quick, decisive cuts and no stutter stepping and dancing around.  He cuts enough and runs by people and cuts both directions.   He is a dam fine RB and will compete to play as a freshman I suspect.  There are couple more on the board out there that we need to pursue with all deliberate speed as well.   But he's as good as any we have on the team right now I'd say.

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20 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

I hope his recruitment goes up, the injury didn't help his rating. 

 

Otherwise Frost and Co. need to aim for bigger fish.

So if his rating goes up he is the one?

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He was state runner-up in the 100m as a freshman with a 10.8.   Says he is running around a 10.7 right now and hopes to better that. 

 

 

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All of Frost's recruits seem to be highly skilled, yet not exactly the highest rated players. With an offense with such specific roles, is this the norm? 

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4 hours ago, Mavric said:

My thoughts:

 

More impressed with his film than I expected to be based on his ratings

Was a 10.8 100 meter guy as a freshman.  Doesn't appear blindingly fast on film but that's pretty good for a guy now pushing 200 pounds

Tougher runner than I expected for a guy that fast

Would like to see more elusiveness - not a dynamic cutter.  But also missed his sophomore season with a broken ankle so perhaps between that and being a speed guy he hasn't had to develop his cutting ability that much.

Thanks Mav!

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2 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

I hope his recruitment goes up, the injury didn't help his rating. 

 

Otherwise Frost and Co. need to aim for bigger fish.

 

 

That makes no sense.

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29 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

That makes no sense.

 

I think he's saying we need to do better than low-three-star players.  So either he needs to actually be better than what he is rated now or Frost needs to find other targets.

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For seeming to be a small guy, he certainly ran through a lot of tackles.  For those who would short him on cutting he at least fights through the tackle.  To me, I saw some Barry Sanders but with less shiftiness (like who could equal Sanders on that).  He runs low and seems to have the power in his speed to at least break tackles at this level.  

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7 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

I think he's saying we need to do better than low-three-star players.  So either he needs to actually be better than what he is rated now or Frost needs to find other targets.

Exactly.

 

His injury likely plays a role in his current ranking.  However, if he settles in as a low-three star player during his senior year, Frost needs to find a better target.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

Exactly.

 

His injury likely plays a role in his current ranking.  However, if he settles in as a low-three star player during his senior year, Frost needs to find a better target.

Totally agreed.  

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

Exactly.

 

His injury likely plays a role in his current ranking.  However, if he settles in as a low-three star player during his senior year, Frost needs to find a better target.

Don't care what rating he ends up this Kid can fly and will fit this offense great.   I will take held and frost opinion over nate clouse and the rivals crew.  

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Just now, swmohusker said:

Don't care what rating he ends up this Kid can fly and will fit this offense great.   I will take held and frost opinion over nate clouse and the rivals crew.  

I totally get it and I pretty much agree but in the end we know that for the most part teams with higher ranked kids end up having pretty good seasons.  I know that there are some exceptions to that but not every kid Frost finds is a diamond in the rough and not every 4 and 5 star ranked kid is a stud.  But more times than not it seems like the top 5 teams in the country at the end of the season have usually recruited really well.

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In regards to his rating... he won't be the only RB we take this class so it's not like we are leaning on him to be a 3 year starter here. He will still need to beat out guys like Maurice Washington, Jaylin Bradley, and Miles Jones - along with who else we take in this class. The kid has speed which we lack right now so we are more than okay with this pick up. 

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1 hour ago, teachercd said:

I totally get it and I pretty much agree but in the end we know that for the most part teams with higher ranked kids end up having pretty good seasons.  I know that there are some exceptions to that but not every kid Frost finds is a diamond in the rough and not every 4 and 5 star ranked kid is a stud.  But more times than not it seems like the top 5 teams in the country at the end of the season have usually recruited really well.

This kids ranking will end up a really high 3 star of a low 4 star.  I don't care what he is ranked right now, and if he doesnt raise his ranking much it really doesnt change my opinion of what we got here with Grayson.  Already holds offers from Tenn, TTech, and Syracuse.  I bet it isnt long before some more of the big 12 hops in and offers. Grayson will be the only RB we will take  in this class, hopefully the other is Breece Hall out of KS.  Feel better about our RB room in 3 months with Frost than I did under 3 years of Riley.  

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18 minutes ago, swmohusker said:

This kids ranking will end up a really high 3 star of a low 4 star.  I don't care what he is ranked right now, and if he doesnt raise his ranking much it really doesnt change my opinion of what we got here with Grayson.  Already holds offers from Tenn, TTech, and Syracuse.  I bet it isnt long before some more of the big 12 hops in and offers. Grayson will be the only RB we will take  in this class, hopefully the other is Breece Hall out of KS.  Feel better about our RB room in 3 months with Frost than I did under 3 years of Riley.  

Shoot, 3 years of Riley was enough to make me almost not want to watch football ever again!

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9 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

I think he's saying we need to do better than low-three-star players.  So either he needs to actually be better than what he is rated now or Frost needs to find other targets.

I trust in the staff's ability to find runningback talent. I believe when we offered Maurice Washington before everyone else he was like a high .87 kid or something. Then 2 weeks later he goes to all american game blows up- everyone offers and he jumps up to a .92 kid. Frost and Co saw the .92 kid when they offered. Everyone else saw it after the all star game. 

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1 hour ago, StPaulHusker said:

I wonder why Oklahoma and Oklahoma St haven't offered.

 

Injury scare and wanting to see more tape?  

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3 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

 

Injury scare and wanting to see more tape?  

Or maybe RB rooms are pretty full. Not planning on taking an RB in the class- or have a few guys higher on board.

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2 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Or maybe RB rooms are pretty full. Not planning on taking an RB in the class- or have a few guys higher on board.

Yup, distinct possibilities as well.

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2 hours ago, swmohusker said:

This kids ranking will end up a really high 3 star of a low 4 star.  I don't care what he is ranked right now, and if he doesnt raise his ranking much it really doesnt change my opinion of what we got here with Grayson.  Already holds offers from Tenn, TTech, and Syracuse.  I bet it isnt long before some more of the big 12 hops in and offers. Grayson will be the only RB we will take  in this class, hopefully the other is Breece Hall out of KS.  Feel better about our RB room in 3 months with Frost than I did under 3 years of Riley.  

WE NEED BREECE. Would be a very solid running back class if we locked down Hall and Grayson.

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