Progressive politics and where they go from here

[BigRedBuster]

14 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Being an educator and literally shaping our future,

We’re f#&%ed. 

[teachercd]

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

We’re f#&%ed. 

Hahaha...So true!

[RedDenver]

15 hours ago, teachercd said:

Well, I know I don't want to pay more taxes so hopefully they can be super progressive about finding ways to lower taxes.

 

Being an educator and literally shaping our future, I should not have to income tax at all.  Now THAT is progressive. 

 

 

Right?  Come on, get on board!

Something that rarely gets asked is what paying more in taxes gets you (schools, roads, ports, military, etc.) or paying less loses you (same list plus teachercd's salary, etc.).

 

15 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why the Holy f#&% does he come out with this now instead of after Biden wins?  Sometimes life just leaves me banging my head against the wall. 

Just shut up Bernie for at least a month.  

It's politics. Bernie has more political power before the election than he will have after Biden is in office. Plus it can help Biden get elected since more progressives will come out to vote on the premise that Bernie and the progressive movement can get something out of a Biden presidency. Biden's campaign might even be asking Bernie to go out and offer something to progressives based on their internal polling (just a wild guess) since Bernie has been extremely supportive of Biden.

[BigRedBuster]

5 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Something that rarely gets asked is what paying more in taxes gets you (schools, roads, ports, military, etc.) or paying less loses you (same list plus teachercd's salary, etc.).

Well, with the Trump tax cuts, all it got us was a HUGE deficit.  

5 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

It's politics. Bernie has more political power before the election than he will have after Biden is in office. Plus it can help Biden get elected since more progressives will come out to vote on the premise that Bernie and the progressive movement can get something out of a Biden presidency. Biden's campaign might even be asking Bernie to go out and offer something to progressives based on their internal polling (just a wild guess) since Bernie has been extremely supportive of Biden.

I'm not going to argue that that's not what he's thinking.

 

But, I disagree.  Biden is ahead as far as he is because he's seen as a moderate...good guy...that moderate voters feel comfortable voting for.

[RedDenver]

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

Well, with the Trump tax cuts, all it got us was a HUGE deficit.  

I'm not going to argue that that's not what he's thinking.

 

But, I disagree.  Biden is ahead as far as he is because he's seen as a moderate...good guy...that moderate voters feel comfortable voting for.

Which is why Bernie comes out and says he's going to pressure Biden instead of Biden coming out and saying he's going to do a bunch of progressive stuff. And moderate voters aren't the only voters out there, which is why it'd be interesting to know what the campaign's internal polling is telling them.

[RedDenver]

 

[RedDenver]

 

Here's the article: A wealth tax packs a powerful fiscal punch

 

And here's the tool that let's you try out your own wealth tax: http://taxsimulator.ukwealth.tax/#/

[DevoHusker]

23 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

 

Here's the article: A wealth tax packs a powerful fiscal punch

 

And here's the tool that let's you try out your own wealth tax: http://taxsimulator.ukwealth.tax/#/

 

Unable to read the article behind a paywall. And, I have no experience dealing with pounds for the simulator. 

[RedDenver]

22 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

Unable to read the article behind a paywall. And, I have no experience dealing with pounds for the simulator. 

Weird that I can see the article. And the simulator is for the UK, so it's just to give some idea, not as a direct modeling of the US.

[Nebfanatic]

26 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

Unable to read the article behind a paywall. And, I have no experience dealing with pounds for the simulator. 

Just pretend pounds says dollars, the numbers will work the same in the calculator. Word problem tings.

[Archy1221]

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

 

Here's the article: A wealth tax packs a powerful fiscal punch

 

And here's the tool that let's you try out your own wealth tax: http://taxsimulator.ukwealth.tax/#/

“I’d pay my share”

 

what’s preventing him or any other very rich person who wants to increase taxes from Paying into the treasury right now?  Put your money where your mouth is.  

[RedDenver]

2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

“I’d pay my share”

 

what’s preventing him or any other very rich person who wants to increase taxes from Paying into the treasury right now?  Put your money where your mouth is.  

Voluntary taxes aren't a thing.

[Archy1221]

9 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Voluntary taxes aren't a thing.

Ummmm...voluntarily sending money, outside of the taxes one owes, into the treasury is a thing. 

[DevoHusker]

30 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Weird that I can see the article. And the simulator is for the UK, so it's just to give some idea, not as a direct modeling of the US.

okay, thanks

[RedDenver]

7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Ummmm...voluntarily sending money, outside of the taxes one owes, into the treasury is a thing. 

We're talking about a wealth tax, not a wealth charity. Keep up.