RedDenver Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, BigRedN said: What Could One Gain By Believing In God? My experience ... you can gain almost everything one is willing to see differently! Sometimes it is asked, "How can I look at something differently?" I mean, if you really want to look at things differently, then you'd consider not believing in God as well as believing. 2 Link to comment
admo Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, RedDenver said: I mean, if you really want to look at things differently, then you'd consider not believing in God as well as believing. Maybe he did before, and then came to this conclusion? 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, admo said: Maybe he did before, and then came to this conclusion? Sure. People are welcome to come to whatever conclusions they want. I'm pointing out that the post is based around seeing things differently but then goes on to only consider one perspective. 3 1 Link to comment
admo Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RedDenver said: Sure. People are welcome to come to whatever conclusions they want. I'm pointing out that the post is based around seeing things differently but then goes on to only consider one perspective. Gotcha. My bad Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 10:05 AM, RedDenver said: Sure. People are welcome to come to whatever conclusions they want. I'm pointing out that the post is based around seeing things differently but then goes on to only consider one perspective. And of course the entire thread presumes that the author knows what God really wants you to believe. Apparently it's something that most believers don't. It would be cool if we thought and acted a little more like Jesus. And if I'm reading BigRedN correctly, he thinks you can and should do this by bypassing the church itself. Link to comment
funhusker Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: And of course the entire thread presumes that the author knows what God really wants you to believe. Apparently it's something that most believers don't. It would be cool if we thought and acted a little more like Jesus. And if I'm reading BigRedN correctly, he thinks you can and should do this by bypassing the church itself. BigRedN just doesn’t realize he’s Lutheran… Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Isn't baptism supposed to be between the person being baptized and God? Is the church saying that because some priest misspoke, God can't work his magic? Link to comment
Enhance Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, knapplc said: Isn't baptism supposed to be between the person being baptized and God? Is the church saying that because some priest misspoke, God can't work his magic? That's a great point knapplc. This is the kind of stuff is where the church just... completely loses me. Some leaders/denominations get so caught up in order and tradition that they'll act like an arbiter or judge of God's will, as if they have the place to do so anyways. If Baptism is supposed to be the cleansing of sin that comes from faith in Jesus, do they really think that messing up a word as part of the entire symbolic process is going to make Jesus say "GOTCHA!! NO FORGIVENESS FOR YOU SUCKER." 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Enhance said: That's a great point knapplc. This is the kind of stuff is where the church just... completely loses me. Some leaders/denominations get so caught up in order and tradition that they'll act like an arbiter or judge of God's will, as if they have the place to do so anyways. If Baptism is supposed to be the cleansing of sin that comes from faith in Jesus, do they really think that messing up a word as part of the entire symbolic process is going to make Jesus say "GOTCHA!! NO FORGIVENESS FOR YOU SUCKER." This is the kinda stuff that makes many people feel the same way as you about the bureaucracy of The Church and drives them away from what the messages of the church ought to be. It’s a shame and doesn’t seem to be getting much better. They need to get back to focusing on what Church can mean for the individual instead of conforming everyone into rigid process and no insightful soul searching that leads to better humanity 3 Link to comment
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