BigRedBuster Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Here you go @nic would you be happy with this? 2 Link to comment
commando Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 What will it be, America, the rule of law or triumph of the will? Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 21 hours ago, Crusader Husker said: Dems kept Bernie out. My friend is a hardcore Dem. We had a conversation in te summer of 2016. He said if Hilary loses it would be because she is arrogant. A great article in the Atlantic, I think??, stated that people on the ground in Wisconsin, Penn, and Michigan were telling her she was losing. She said told them they didn't know what they were talking about...they did. The Clinton campaign most definitely took some of their blue states for granted. I believe Hillary did not even set foot in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, choosing to put it all on Ohio. The DNC was all in for Hillary and all out knives for Bernie. Hillary ran a poor campaign and the Comey announcement erased her double-digit lead overnight. Trying to figure what this says about America, I almost forgot that Hillary won by 3 million votes. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: Here you go @nic would you be happy with this? Ya, that has nothing to do with the term limits imposed on the Presidency. 2 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Ya, that has nothing to do with the term limits imposed on the Presidency. Yeah….one part of the constitution is more important. Got it. 4 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 44 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Yeah….one part of the constitution is more important. Got it. Got what? You are saying something I never said. You also claim that what is going on in CO and Maine is constitutional. That is up for interpretation and the ultimate judicial body hasn’t ruled on it 1 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 On 12/29/2023 at 5:28 AM, Scarlet said: Two of our country's preeminent constitutional experts consider the Colorado ruling "brilliant". Neither could be considered particularly partisan. Luttig is very conservative and Katyal voiced support for both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.. This is worth taking 15 minutes to watch. If the US Supreme Court takes this up and upholds it, then it is what it is. I think that would create an opening for states to do this in other cases. If swing states do it, then what? Election boards and judges decide who is president? 3 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, nic said: If the US Supreme Court takes this up and upholds it, then it is what it is. I think that would create an opening for states to do this in other cases. If swing states do it, then what? Election boards and judges decide who is president? Let all of them keep candidates off the ballot who incited an insurrection. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment
commando Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 20 minutes ago, nic said: If the US Supreme Court takes this up and upholds it, then it is what it is. I think that would create an opening for states to do this in other cases. If swing states do it, then what? Election boards and judges decide who is president? didn't the courts decide the 2020 election? 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 52 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Let all of them keep candidates off the ballot who incited an insurrection. Or those that have open border policies that go against one of the few tenants the Fed Gov is supposed to control. 41 minutes ago, commando said: didn't the courts decide the 2020 election? No 2 3 Link to comment
commando Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, commando said: didn't the courts decide the 2020 election? meant the 2000.election . 2 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Or those that have open border policies that go against one of the few tenants the Fed Gov is supposed to control. Can you point out where the Constitution says that's a disqualifying action? 1 2 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 12 hours ago, nic said: If the US Supreme Court takes this up and upholds it, then it is what it is. I think that would create an opening for states to do this in other cases. If swing states do it, then what? Election boards and judges decide who is president? I don’t think you’re making the point well, but yes I suppose political judges could just say a candidate engaged in insurrection, if they want. Even if there was no evidence. I’m not sure what the next step would be after that. Assuming the Supreme Court disallows this, will they say a conviction of insurrection be required? 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/29/2023 at 1:14 PM, Moiraine said: What did the 4 judges do that you think they shouldn’t have? They didn’t create the lawsuit that came before them. Do you think the argument that Trump engaged in insurrection isn’t strong enough for the decision they made? I think I answered this in another post. It seems like the DOJ should have convicted Trump of insurrection first, no? 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, nic said: I think I answered this in another post. It seems like the DOJ should have convicted Trump of insurrection first, no? The constitution does not require that. 1 Link to comment
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