Moiraine Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 32 minutes ago, nic said: And yet the Democrat mayors of NY, Chicago, Denver and others are all crying for the Biden admin to do something. They asked Biden to get them more funds. Guess who has to approve those funds? 1 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Moiraine said: They asked Biden to get them more funds. Guess who has to approve those funds? The NY mayor was talking about a state of emergency because of being overwhelmed. Maybe that is strictly a money play, but it's a bad look politically especially when kids get to go back to the disaster called remote learning in order to use schools to house immigrants. Democrats better hope this settles down or we will get 'build a wall' Trump 2.0. And yes the Republicans no longer have any motivation to help fix this for the next 9 months because it's the Democrats that own it in the eyes of the public. Maybe a few executive orders could help. 3 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, nic said: The NY mayor was talking about a state of emergency because of being overwhelmed. Maybe that is strictly a money play, but it's a bad look politically especially when kids get to go back to the disaster called remote learning in order to use schools to house immigrants. Democrats better hope this settles down or we will get 'build a wall' Trump 2.0. And yes the Republicans no longer have any motivation to help fix this for the next 9 months because it's the Democrats that own it in the eyes of the public. Maybe a few executive orders could help. None of this indicates the Biden administration doesn’t care. He’s requested $1.4 billion for the cities with the worst problems. They are saying they need $5 billion, but he can’t get the law to pass through the House right now. Even if it does settle down, the Republicans have a lot of gullible voters. They’ll convince them it’s emergency just like in 2015-2016 when it wasn’t one. Our government is broken right now. The Republicans didn’t want to make ACA better because it would make the Democrats look good. Their MO for years has been stay in power and trick people into hating the Democrats on various hot button issues that they usually make up. Some are actual issues but then they make up the details. 2 Link to comment
nic Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Now Biden is willing to shut it down? I am not sure I believe it can be shut down. Maybe that means we send everyone back. Seems like a President could shut down the border on their own if it's an emergency. At least he finally realizes Trump is going to pummel him on this if he doesn't do something. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/politics/biden-border-shut-down-us-mexico-immigration/index.html 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, nic said: Now Biden is willing to shut it down? I am not sure I believe it can be shut down. Maybe that means we send everyone back. Seems like a President could shut down the border on their own if it's an emergency. At least he finally realizes Trump is going to pummel him on this if he doesn't do something. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/politics/biden-border-shut-down-us-mexico-immigration/index.html Don’t you remember all the times the Biden Admin has claimed the Border was already closed and secure. 2 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, nic said: Now Biden is willing to shut it down? I am not sure I believe it can be shut down. Maybe that means we send everyone back. Seems like a President could shut down the border on their own if it's an emergency. At least he finally realizes Trump is going to pummel him on this if he doesn't do something. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/politics/biden-border-shut-down-us-mexico-immigration/index.html As Trump and his sycophants in Congress bellow about their stellar border security they really don't have a leg to stand on. Of course the gaslit will argue otherwise but the data shows Biden has sent back a higher percentage of border crossers than Trump did. Trump's policies weren't effective and his wall? LMAO https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden 'According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden. In absolute terms, the Biden DHS is removing 3.5 times as many people per month as the Trump DHS did. These figures are important for understanding how each administration has carried out border enforcement." The reason why more people are attempting to cross the border is more complex than is being painted here. Economic factors here and in their home countries drive most it and right now we don't have enough workers to man our economy. Political conditions are another big driver. The asylum process is law and I guess if you want, you can promote going against the law. I mean that's Trump's thing for sure. Title 42 became invalid when the Covid Emergency expired. If we were still under that MAGA would be crying about it instead. The bipartisan proposal coming out of the Senate looks like a good starting point but if course MAGA under orders from Trump are going to kill it. That's where your outrage should be pointed. 3 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 That post is higher than the wall! My god. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 10 hours ago, nic said: Now Biden is willing to shut it down? I am not sure I believe it can be shut down. Maybe that means we send everyone back. Seems like a President could shut down the border on their own if it's an emergency. At least he finally realizes Trump is going to pummel him on this if he doesn't do something. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/politics/biden-border-shut-down-us-mexico-immigration/index.html Did you guys really think Biden was just going to waltz right into a trap Trump's party was very obviously trying to set up for an election year in broad daylight? I mean without a doubt he's not a spry as he used to be. But he's not a moron and he understands the system he's spent decades working in. The bill spells out exactly what we'd do. Ramp up enforcement whenever crossing numbers exceed the designated limits and impose stiffer penalties for repeat offenders. While adding extra immigration judges and other support staff to finally start unclogging of LEGAL immigration system to make it actually functional again. The Speaker is calling on Biden to do something which Trump already tried and was legally determined unlawful by the courts. There is a loophole that is allowing immigrants to LEGALLY claim asylum due to the way the current laws are written. If we don't like it we need to write new laws addressing the matter. Which is solely the job of Congress. Biden can close the border unilaterally just like he can legally authorize use of military force anywhere he wants. He's rightly trying to push Congress to do their damn jobs, just like they've failed to do in both areas for decades. 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, teachercd said: That post is higher than the wall! My god. Well….. @Scarlet did a great job of posting good info on a complex topic. Republicans want this to only be about sound bites and not actually doing anything about it. 1 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Dang...he is DONE 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Well….. @Scarlet did a great job of posting good info on a complex topic. Republicans want this to only be about sound bites and not actually doing anything about it. It was an amazing post, no doubt. 1 Link to comment
nic Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 hours ago, teachercd said: That post is higher than the wall! My god. That took way more effort than I am willing to spend reading the board, but perception tends to win in politics. 2 2 Link to comment
nic Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 10 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: The Speaker is calling on Biden to do something which Trump already tried and was legally determined unlawful by the courts. There is a loophole that is allowing immigrants to LEGALLY claim asylum due to the way the current laws are written. If we don't like it we need to write new laws addressing the matter. Which is solely the job of Congress. Biden can close the border unilaterally just like he can legally authorize use of military force anywhere he wants. He's rightly trying to push Congress to do their damn jobs, just like they've failed to do in both areas for decades. Great. Close it for 30 days and tell congress to close the loophole. That would look good and put the spotlight back on the congress. It would also help with the criticism. Pull the trigger man. 3 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Pathetic weak Senator Scott. He does a what-about Hunter when denying that voters care about the $83m verdict in the E Jean Carrol case. The price of selling one's soul is pretty cheap now a days it appears. 2 Link to comment
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