Media Bias

[ZRod]

4 hours ago, knapplc said:

Not this again.

 

Senate Russia report proves Trump collusion was very real. But do voters care?

The Senate Intelligence Committee should be applauded for releasing the fifth and final volume of its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

 

With over 200 witness interviews and roughly 1 million documents reviewed, the nearly 1,000-page report documents in detail the comprehensive campaign conducted by Russian President Vladimir Putin and his proxies to seek influence within President Donald Trump's campaign, help Trump win the 2016 presidential election and amplify polarization and division within American society.

 

Far from a hoax, as the president so often claimed, the report reveals how the Trump campaign willingly engaged with Russian operatives implementing the influence effort. For instance, the report exposes interactions and information exchanged between Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. According to the report, campaign figures “presented attractive targets for foreign influence, creating notable counterintelligence vulnerabilities.” (Manafort was later convicted of tax and bank fraud.)

 

Concluding one of the highest-profile congressional investigations in recent memory, the report also uncovers abuses within the U.S. government’s investigation of this operation. These methods require review and reform.

 

The bipartisan tone of the majority of the report, released by a committee chaired by Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, should be welcomed by all Americans who want our elected leaders to protect American sovereignty. National security should never be a partisan issue.

 

 

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Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress

Mr Mueller said he had not exonerated Mr Trump of obstruction of justice.

 

The former FBI director spent two years probing alleged collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia, but did not establish collusion in a crime.

 

He concluded that Russia had interfered in the election with the intention of benefiting Mr Trump's campaign.

 

The questions focused largely on Mr Mueller's investigation of President Trump and his decision to say he could not exonerate the president of obstruction of justice, but Mr Mueller repeatedly stressed the importance of concerns over ongoing Russian interference in US democracy.

 

"Over the course of my career I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious," he said.

 

He added: "Much more needs to be done in order to protect against this intrusion, by the Russians but others as well."

 

 

 

I know someone who's still not going to read it.

[Lorewarn]

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

I know someone who's still not going to read it.

 

 

Well that's because it's a hoax.

[Archy1221]

8 hours ago, ZRod said:

I know someone who's still not going to read it.

Maybe ^^^^^^^^^^^ 

[nic]

I saw this the other day. Didn't think much of it at the time. He could be disgruntled.

 

https://www.insideradio.com/free/npr-niche-public-radio-senior-editor-uri-berliner-accuses-network-of-biased-journalism/article_28a5877a-f77f-11ee-b4de-cbdb341c259e.html.

 

“It’s true, NPR has always had a liberal bent, but during most of my tenure here, an open-minded, curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee-jerk, activist, or scolding,” Berliner writes. “In recent years, however, that has changed. Today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find something different: the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population.”

 

Then Juan Williams says this. Of course I read NPR let him have it for saying he was uncomfortable around Muslims in airports after 9.11.

 

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/media/juan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17128461991779&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Fjuan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right

 

"So they are a very much an insulated cadre of people who think they're right, and they have a hard time with people who are different," 

 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, nic said:

I saw this the other day. Didn't think much of it at the time. He could be disgruntled.

 

https://www.insideradio.com/free/npr-niche-public-radio-senior-editor-uri-berliner-accuses-network-of-biased-journalism/article_28a5877a-f77f-11ee-b4de-cbdb341c259e.html.

 

“It’s true, NPR has always had a liberal bent, but during most of my tenure here, an open-minded, curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee-jerk, activist, or scolding,” Berliner writes. “In recent years, however, that has changed. Today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find something different: the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population.”

 

Then Juan Williams says this. Of course I read NPR let him have it for saying he was uncomfortable around Muslims in airports after 9.11.

 

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/media/juan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17128461991779&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Fjuan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right

 

"So they are a very much an insulated cadre of people who think they're right, and they have a hard time with people who are different," 

 

 

 

You may have missed us discussing this piece yesterday. 

[Archy1221]

 

[BigRedBuster]

On 4/11/2024 at 9:47 AM, nic said:

I saw this the other day. Didn't think much of it at the time. He could be disgruntled.

 

https://www.insideradio.com/free/npr-niche-public-radio-senior-editor-uri-berliner-accuses-network-of-biased-journalism/article_28a5877a-f77f-11ee-b4de-cbdb341c259e.html.

 

“It’s true, NPR has always had a liberal bent, but during most of my tenure here, an open-minded, curious culture prevailed. We were nerdy, but not knee-jerk, activist, or scolding,” Berliner writes. “In recent years, however, that has changed. Today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find something different: the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population.”

 

Then Juan Williams says this. Of course I read NPR let him have it for saying he was uncomfortable around Muslims in airports after 9.11.

 

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/media/juan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17128461991779&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fmedia%2Fjuan-williams-responds-editors-charges-npr-bias-insulated-cadre-people-who-think-theyre-right

 

"So they are a very much an insulated cadre of people who think they're right, and they have a hard time with people who are different," 

 

 

 

The frustrating thing about this is that NPR was a good source of relatively impartial information....even when Republicans were calling them a liberal propaganda machine.  But, instead of just keeping going and doing their thing, they must have fallen into doing what Republicans always accused them of.

 

So, now, even if they went back to being a well respected source, Republicans will beat this drum even louder.

[Archy1221]

No wonder NPR sucks.  
 

 

[teachercd]

I mean, she is right.

 

[Archy1221]

 

[BigRedBuster]

21 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

 

How is the F-35 project not a boondoggle?

[nic]

On 4/11/2024 at 10:11 AM, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

You may have missed us discussing this piece yesterday. 

Yes I did. Haven't read this thread in awhile. Another former executive weighed in.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-npr-executive-praises-whistleblower-exposing-liberal-bias-identified-real-problem

 

"I think a lot of news organizations are struggling with these issues, with issues of fairness and the ability to tell more than one story," they said, noting that journalists need to figure out how to accurately report on something they personally disagree with.

 

 "The job of journalism has become more frightened than ever before, and it's a kind of cultural McCarthyism, where people are being frightened out of saying what they think." 

 

It goes for FOX too. I was looking at head lines Monday. Fox's top story was the Trump hush money trail followed by Israel-Iran. The top 4 stories on CNN were all Trump hush money with a fifth down the page aways. The Fox story was favorable to Trump. CNN stories were not. 

[BigRedBuster]

12 minutes ago, nic said:

Yes I did. Haven't read this thread in awhile. Another former executive weighed in.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-npr-executive-praises-whistleblower-exposing-liberal-bias-identified-real-problem

 

"I think a lot of news organizations are struggling with these issues, with issues of fairness and the ability to tell more than one story," they said, noting that journalists need to figure out how to accurately report on something they personally disagree with.

 

 "The job of journalism has become more frightened than ever before, and it's a kind of cultural McCarthyism, where people are being frightened out of saying what they think." 

 

It goes for FOX too. I was looking at head lines Monday. Fox's top story was the Trump hush money trail followed by Israel-Iran. The top 4 stories on CNN were all Trump hush money with a fifth down the page aways. The Fox story was favorable to Trump. CNN stories were not. 

Well, the difference as I see it is, people from NPR are talking about it with the hopes of fixing it.  There have been stories come out the last year or so talking about how CNN is trying to make a bigger effort in not be biased.  Getting rid of Lemon was a step in that direction.

 

Fox???  Naaa....they just like reporting how horrible everyone else is without looking at themselves.

 

And....just because CNN's stories are not favorable to Trump, doesn't mean they are biased.  He is, afterall, on trial.

[Guy Chamberlin]

In the early days of lazy 24/7 news reporting, you just grabbed a spokesperson from both sides and gave them air time. Voila --- fairness.

 

But you can't presume both sides are making an equally good case unless you research their claims, a job that reporters are paid to do on behalf of the average less-informed viewer. If you have a partisan agenda --- and I'm assuming every journalist casts a vote -- you have to be ready to report some inconvenient truths. But....if you uncover some shoddy intel on Russian collusion or a legitimate theory of a Covid lab leak, does that wipe out the larger stories about Russian electoral influence and pandemic response? It shouldn't, but of course it does. There are even people on this board who think Donald Trump was exonerated by the Mueller Report, even when Mueller went to the trouble of literally declaring the opposite. 

 

Kinda makes me think of the steroid era in baseball. The drug-free players watched the roid heads elevating their stats and salary, apparently facing no consequences from the league. Until some said f#&% it: if we're not playing fair, and I'm getting no love for playing clean, I'll take the short cut, too. Fox was tv news on steroids, and CNN and MSNBC realized they better juice, too. 

[BigRedBuster]

3 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

In the early days of lazy 24/7 news reporting, you just grabbed a spokesperson from both sides and gave them air time. Voila --- fairness.

 

But you can't presume both sides are making an equally good case unless you research their claims, a job that reporters are paid to do on behalf of the average less-informed viewer. If you have a partisan agenda --- and I'm assuming every journalist casts a vote -- you have to be ready to report some inconvenient truths. But....if you uncover some shoddy intel on Russian collusion or a legitimate theory of a Covid lab leak, does that wipe out the larger stories about Russian electoral influence and pandemic response? It shouldn't, but of course it does. There are even people on this board who think Donald Trump was exonerated by the Mueller Report, even when Mueller went to the trouble of literally declaring the opposite. 

 

Kinda makes me think of the steroid era in baseball. The drug-free players watched the roid heads elevating their stats and salary, apparently facing no consequences from the league. Until some said f#&% it: if we're not playing fair, and I'm getting no love for playing clean, I'll take the short cut, too. Fox was tv news on steroids, and CNN and MSNBC realized they better juice, too. 

What needs to be noticed in the NPR situation is, this is coming to light BECAUSE they used to not be nearly as biased.  Historically, they have been a good source of balanced and reasonable coverage.  This is more of a recent development that hopefully can be corrected by these people speaking out.