DevoHusker Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, Scarlet said: Do you know who was in the room when Milley made the call? Did he ever contact China in a similar manner before? Was their anyone from the State Department present? Did he follow precedence and protocols? Isn't the other part of this equation even more frightening? I don't, if you do please share. And if the answers are: no one, no, no, unknown...then yes,it worries me. 1 1 Link to comment
Redux Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 It was conspiracy theory to think this https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/573915-fbi-had-informant-in-crowd-during-capitol-riot-report Until it wasn't 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Redux said: It was conspiracy theory to think this https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/573915-fbi-had-informant-in-crowd-during-capitol-riot-report Until it wasn't It was a conspiracy theory to think the FBI had cultivated informants within the Proud Boys and other white supremacists terrorist groups? I guess I missed that. 2 2 Link to comment
funhusker Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Scarlet said: It was a conspiracy theory to think the FBI had cultivated informants within the Proud Boys and other white supremacists terrorist groups? I guess I missed that. Next thing you know, they’ll be telling us there’s also informants inside the mob… 1 Link to comment
Redux Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Weird how these things come to light and then it's "well of course they do!". Good thing they had that "one" informant or that deadly attack may have almost killed someone besides......themselves. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Redux said: Weird how these things come to light and then it's "well of course they do!". Good thing they had that "one" informant or that deadly attack may have almost killed someone besides......themselves. The mob pulls a hit. The FBI has mob informants. @Redux blames the FBI for said hit. 3 Link to comment
commando Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 i am so confused. was jan 6 true patriots? antifa super soldiers? a mob of FBI agents? i know trump called them patriots and the far right says that whats her name is a martyr to the cause but we keep hearing conspiracies about it not being what trump and the far right have claimed it was. 2 Link to comment
Redux Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Scarlet said: The mob pulls a hit. The FBI has mob informants. @Redux blames the FBI for said hit. Where did I say this or even infer it? This is completely dishonest and ridiculous. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Redux said: Where did I say this or even infer it? This is completely dishonest and ridiculous. To your original post, what was the conspiracy theory? Simply that the FBI had an informant within the ranks of the Proud Boys? Who shot that down as just a conspiracy theory? Because I never saw anyone here dispute that if it was ever even brought up. I've seen conspiracy theories saying it was an FBI inside job. I'm assuming that's not what you are referring to. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scarlet said: To your original post, what was the conspiracy theory? Simply that the FBI had an informant within the ranks of the Proud Boys? Who shot that down as just a conspiracy theory? Because I never saw anyone here dispute that if it was ever even brought up. I've seen conspiracy theories saying it was an FBI inside job. I'm assuming that's not what you are referring to. I would assume the FBI would definitely try and have informants, that doesn’t surprise me. What I would like to know is whether or not those informants were some of the first to enter the building and whether or not those informants were instigating others to enter the building at the beginning. 1 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Archy1221 said: I would assume the FBI would definitely try and have informants, that doesn’t surprise me. What I would like to know is whether or not those informants were some of the first to enter the building and whether or not those informants were instigating others to enter the building at the beginning. I think we all would like to know that. But informants are not agents. They're not held to the agency's standards. You deal with some really dirty people in intelligence. If an informant went rogue and instigated others that doesn't mean the FBI was complicit. Or of course it could have been Trump loyalists in the FBI that were involved. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, Scarlet said: I think we all would like to know that. But informants are not agents. They're not held to the agency's standards. You deal with some really dirty people in intelligence. If an informant went rogue and instigated others that doesn't mean the FBI was complicit. Or of course it could have been Trump loyalists in the FBI that were involved. I’m of the opinion that many/most/almost all the people there supported Trump for President. I just think the narrative is different if the Capitol trespassing was instigated by either FBI informants or undercover FBI. If the informants were instigating things that otherwise were not currently happening, did the FBI ask the informants to try and get things started? Did informants do it on their own knowing they would not suffer consequences? Or were those informants and agents just part of the crowd and reporting in real time what was happening? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 8:24 PM, DevoHusker said: Milley "may" have thought "something might happen" so he contacted another General in China...China. What it is, is frightening. That doesn't worry you? We had a loony toon whack job as President and nobody knew what he was going to do when he lost. I actually find it comforting that Milley was able to call up and have a rational discussion with an adversary in this particular instance. Now, what would be scary is if the rolls were reversed and we had a calm and rational President and a loony toon General was calling other countries. 3 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: Now, what would be scary is if the rolls were reversed and we had a calm and rational President and a loony toon General was calling other countries. Exactly Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Exactly But, that’s not the case here. 1 Link to comment
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