TGHusker Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Quote Woodward and Bernstein brand Trump the 'first seditious president' Former President Donald Trump has surpassed Richard Nixon as the poster child of corruption, according to Watergate sleuths Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. The pair, famous for how they helped expose the Watergate scandal in the Nixon administration nearly 50 years ago, were again published by the Washington Post on Sunday, days ahead of when the House committee investigating the Capitol riot is scheduled to hold the first in a series of summer hearings, calling Trump the first "seditious" president. Whereas "instruments of American democracy finally stopped Nixon dead in his tracks, forcing the only resignation of a president in American history," Woodward and Bernstein write that Trump "not only sought to destroy the electoral system through false claims of voter fraud and unprecedented public intimidation of state election officials, but he also then attempted to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to his duly elected successor, for the first time in American history." Trump, who has denied responsibility for the Capitol riot, engaged in a "deception that exceeded even Nixon’s imagination," they wrote, referring to the 45th president's efforts to challenge the results of the 2020 election oodward and Bernstein draw a direct line between Trump's actions and the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, the day lawmakers gathered to certify Joe Biden's presidential victory, with former Vice President Mike Pence presiding and refusing to play along with any bid to overturn the election's outcome. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/woodward-and-bernstein-brand-trump-the-first-seditious-president https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/carl-bernstein-says-jan-6-committee-has-evidence-to-show-real-conspiracy Link to comment
Scarlet Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 With any luck they'll all get 20 years and die in prison. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 We're either going to see indictments and convictions or democracy is dead. 2 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 22 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I hope all of America is tuned in and they see trump for who he really is - a dictator, authoritarian want-to-be who would destroy our democracy if he got a 2nd term. Liz Cheney needs a high profile spot in presenting the information against a GOP president and his cult followers. The evidence has to be presented in a way where there is no wiggle room for anyone - either you are for America and the rule of law or you are a trump loyalist who has no regard to anything but power and control. 1 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, TGHusker said: I hope all of America is tuned in and they see trump for who he really is - a dictator, authoritarian want-to-be who would destroy our democracy if he got a 2nd term. Liz Cheney needs a high profile spot in presenting the information against a GOP president and his cult followers. The evidence has to be presented in a way where there is no wiggle room for anyone - either you are for America and the rule of law or you are a trump loyalist who has no regard to anything but power and control. All Americans except viewers of right wing disinformation media such as Fox "News" which carried Benghazi non-stop but suspiciously refuse to carry what could be the most important hearings in our county's history. So about 40% of the country will continue on with their heads buried in the sand. 2 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 22 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: This is how the GOP (now known as COT, the Cult of Trump) plans on countering the public hearings. Denial and partisan attacks - avoiding any responsibility. https://www.vox.com/2022/5/31/23148789/rnc-january-6-committee Quote Republicans’ strategy ahead of the first public hearings of the select committee investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol reveals a rare glimpse of daylight between the aims of the party and the desires of former President Donald Trump. In a document obtained by Vox, a coordinated communications plan apparently sent from the Republican National Committee (RNC) recommends pushing back on the select committee as “partisan” while also taking care not to be seen as explicitly speaking on behalf of Trump or embracing his lies about the 2020 election’s legitimacy. The RNC declined to comment on whether it created or sent the document. Trump, according to the same document, is focused on amplifying that message, both in the mainstream media and in conservative media. The committee, formed in July 2021, has spent the past 11 months working behind closed doors, taking depositions and fighting legal battles to obtain information from Trump allies about the events leading up to January 6, 2021. A series of public hearings, scheduled to begin on June 9, marks a major escalation in the committee’s public-facing actions and represents a challenge for Republicans hoping to move past the turbulent final days of the Trump administration. The document from the RNC, intended to help party operatives respond to the public hearing, is divided into two sections. The first explicitly includes “RNC goals,” such as defining “Democrats as the real election deniers” and “remind[ing] voters that law enforcement investigations have taken place.” The other section includes “Requests from FPOTUS” — an abbreviation for “former President of the United States” — as the document labels Trump. Trump’s requests include “shaping coverage on networks” through surrogates as well as especially using conservative media to “control and drive messaging using the channels we control” while also checking if there were trackers available to “ask members of congress about what their priorities should be” and get them on the record about the hearings. The difference between what Trump desires and what the RNC hopes to achieve is made clear under RNC goals, where it is explicitly said its recommendations are “Not one size fits all. We won’t provide air cover for all but don’t want to be seen as speaking for FPOTUS.” “We haven’t seen a copy of this document, so it would be ridiculous to comment on its authenticity. However, the RNC plans on aggressively responding to the partisan attacks and political theater the Democrats are engaging in with Nancy Pelosi’s illegitimate January 6 Committee,” spokesperson Emma Vaughn said. 3 minutes ago, Scarlet said: All Americans except viewers of right wing disinformation media such as Fox "News" which carried Benghazi non-stop but suspiciously refuse to carry what could be the most important hearings in our county's history. So about 40% of the country will continue on with their heads buried in the sand. Yep, so true, so sad. Link to comment
Dr. Strangelove Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Scarlet said: We're either going to see indictments and convictions or democracy is dead. Put me down for 'Democracy is dead'. Republicans gleefully contributed to the destruction of America at the hands of an emotionally and intellectually challenged bloated cheeto. Their voters couldn't be more thrilled, this destruction of Democracy is a simple cost to battle non-existent threats like CRT or Trans-Women playing sports. We're completely doomed, but America is getting what it deserves. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said: Put me down for 'Democracy is dead'. Republicans gleefully contributed to the destruction of America at the hands of an emotionally and intellectually challenged bloated cheeto. Their voters couldn't be more thrilled, this destruction of Democracy is a simple cost to battle non-existent threats like CRT or Trans-Women playing sports. We're completely doomed, but America is getting what it deserves. The sad thing is that too many people see this as nothing more than a sports competition. My GOP must win like my Huskers must win. Most will discount the sedition charges handed down the other day to nothing more than biased 'refereeing'. There is no grasp on the seriousness of such a charge. Too many Americans are too busy to take the time to understand what is going on here. So yes, American gets what it deserves as America reaps the consequences of its willful neglect and inattention to what is vital for our democracy to prosper. 3 Link to comment
Scarlet Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 It seems like a lot of people are starting to consider their future. 1 Link to comment
Dr. Strangelove Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 hours ago, TGHusker said: The sad thing is that too many people see this as nothing more than a sports competition. My GOP must win like my Huskers must win. Most will discount the sedition charges handed down the other day to nothing more than biased 'refereeing'. There is no grasp on the seriousness of such a charge. Too many Americans are too busy to take the time to understand what is going on here. So yes, American gets what it deserves as America reaps the consequences of its willful neglect and inattention to what is vital for our democracy to prosper. Exactly. If American's cared about democracy, they wouldn't vote for the party trying to destroy it. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I'm sure this will only make him a more attractive candidate for some folks. FBI arrests Michigan gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley during raid of Allendale home LANSING — The FBI raided the Allendale home of Michigan gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley on Thursday and arrested him, a spokeswoman confirmed. Kelley, who sells real estate, was at the Capitol in Washington, D.C. when protestors rioted and illegally entered the building on Jan. 6, 2021, though he never confirmed he went inside and has denied doing anything illegal. In June 2021, the Michigan Democratic Party shared a video of Kelley outside the Capitol on Jan. 6 of that year. In the video, Kelley appears to shout: "Come on, let's go! This is it! This is — this is war, baby!" 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Wow....The Cheeto is doubling down on his support of the attack on the capital. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, knapplc said: I'm sure this will only make him a more attractive candidate for some folks. FBI arrests Michigan gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley during raid of Allendale home LANSING — The FBI raided the Allendale home of Michigan gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley on Thursday and arrested him, a spokeswoman confirmed. Kelley, who sells real estate, was at the Capitol in Washington, D.C. when protestors rioted and illegally entered the building on Jan. 6, 2021, though he never confirmed he went inside and has denied doing anything illegal. In June 2021, the Michigan Democratic Party shared a video of Kelley outside the Capitol on Jan. 6 of that year. In the video, Kelley appears to shout: "Come on, let's go! This is it! This is — this is war, baby!" Good deal. If he went into the building and thinks he can run for office he is badly mistaken. Link to comment
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