Archy1221 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ZRod said: We know what Israel would claim for reasoning the minute they issued the warning. Biden admin didn’t really disagree 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Seriously, those f#&%ers are nuts. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Biden admin didn’t really disagree Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: IDF has stated they showed the Intelligence. 2 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: IDF has stated they showed the Intelligence. And the US government seems to be mum. I would never take Israel's word for it on any strike. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Unreal. Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Archy1221 said: IDF has stated they showed the Intelligence. And Saudia Arabia said they didnt kill Khashoggi. Govts have a tendency to lie and to make themselves look better than they are. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ZRod said: And the US government seems to be mum. I would never take Israel's word for it on any strike. https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-showed-us-smoking-gun-on-hamas-in-ap-office-tower-officials-say-668303 6 minutes ago, Frott Scost said: And Saudia Arabia said they didnt kill Khashoggi. Govts have a tendency to lie and to make themselves look better than they are. Would that include the US Govt 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-showed-us-smoking-gun-on-hamas-in-ap-office-tower-officials-say-668303 Would that include the US Govt Why would it not? It's kind of why people were upset when our government was calling the media "enemies of the people". The free press is our only check against the government lying to us. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, funhusker said: Why would it not? It's kind of why people were upset when our government was calling the media "enemies of the people". The free press is our only check against the government lying to us. No. A free and fair press. Partisan press can lie/gaslight /narrate the news just as well as any politician. Just see FoxNews/CNN/MSNBC/NYT/WAPO/DAILYCALLER/HUFFPO/etc.... 1 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-showed-us-smoking-gun-on-hamas-in-ap-office-tower-officials-say-668303 Would that include the US Govt Yes. WMD and Bolivian coup are the first ones that come to mind but Im sure I can think of a ton more. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Frott Scost said: Yes. WMD and Bolivian coup are the first ones that come to mind but Im sure I can think of a ton more. So why do you believe Blinken now? 1 Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: So why do you believe Blinken now? Because multiple that worked for AP in that same building have come out and said Hamas wasnt working out of that building. 2 Link to comment
funhusker Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: No. A free and fair press. Partisan press can lie/gaslight /narrate the news just as well as any politician. Just see FoxNews/CNN/MSNBC/NYT/WAPO/DAILYCALLER/HUFFPO/etc.... True. But I still wouldn't call them "enemies of the people". They are making money telling people what they want to hear and in many cases it's utter trash. But I'd rather have more sources of media to help sort out the bullcrap than only having a handful that we are kind of stuck in a position where we don't know if we can trust them or not... 1 Link to comment
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