Biden Foreign Policy

[BigRedBuster]

34 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/07/poll-students-israel-hamas-protests

 

"By the numbers: Only a small minority (8%) of college students have participated in either side of the protests, the survey of 1,250 college students found.

 

Students ranked the conflict in the Middle East as the least important issue facing them out of nine options.

It landed behind health care reform, racial justice and civil rights, economic fairness and opportunity, education funding and access, and climate change.

What they found: The survey found that three times as many college students blame Hamas for the current situation in Gaza than they do President Biden."

And....Biden was trying to assist Gaza long before the protests started and, I believe, he had already had discussion with Bibi on his disagreement on how Israel was conducting the war.

 

It's why I don't understand why the protesters are so upset with Biden.  Yes, he has been supplying Israel with weapons.  We always have....other than situations like now and during Reagans years.....which I understand and support.  But, these idiotic protesters seem to totally ignore October 7th.

[BigRedBuster]

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Not sure if anyone really noticed, but the Far Left demands for a cease fire have been joined by moderate, mainstream, international and even Republican calls for a cease-fire. It's not particularly daring or pandering; it's a position pretty much any President would take regarding a 7 month war that's killing vastly more civilians than terrorists. If we saw nightly footage from Gaza rather than Columbia University it would no doubt color our opinion, but that's probably for another thread. 

 

So starting from that point, what would leadership look like?  Does the American President say, yes we support Israel politically, financially, and militarily, but we draw the line at providing weaponry likely to be used in a promised assault of Rafah, where a million displaced Palestians have been herded? Conservatives of old would have bristled that a guy like Netanyahu would accept American largesse but refuse any U.S. conditions.

 

Or would leadership mean doing nothing, because taking this kind of stand would look like pandering to a small percentage of college students unlikely to vote for you anyway?

 

 

Exactly.  We are supplying Israel with weapons.  In general, I support that.  But, those weapons should come with demands on how they should be used.  It baffles me that conservatives all of a sudden are crying about this.  We should not be supporting an all out destruction of a population of people.

[Lorewarn]

20 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Exactly.  We are supplying Israel with weapons.  In general, I support that.  But, those weapons should come with demands on how they should be used.  It baffles me that conservatives all of a sudden are crying about this.  We should not be supporting an all out destruction of a population of people.

 

 

Concern over what's right and sensible in governing is low on the priority list compared to sniffing out opportunities for gotcha's and pointing out hypocrisy, real or made up.

 

As far as the college protests, I doubt Biden is sweating it all that much. These are tiny minorities of super left students at super left campuses in left cities in mostly left states. Not a big enough mass of people to not be easily ignored, and even less so in terms of securing votes.

[Guy Chamberlin]

52 minutes ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Concern over what's right and sensible in governing is low on the priority list compared to sniffing out opportunities for gotcha's and pointing out hypocrisy, real or made up.

 

As far as the college protests, I doubt Biden is sweating it all that much. These are tiny minorities of super left students at super left campuses in left cities in mostly left states. Not a big enough mass of people to not be easily ignored, and even less so in terms of securing votes.

 

At this point Joe Biden has to sweat pretty much everything. Although he has conducted a Presidency that would be considered Just Fine or at worst Unremarkable compared to all previous Presidencies, it has been packaged as a Disaster and sold to a significant cross section of America, even erstwhile supporters who simply think he's too old. All signs point to Donald Trump regaining the Presidency. 

[Archy1221]

Truth 

Hmmmmm

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Truth 

Hmmmmm

 

 

Boy, you’re trying hard. 
 

[Archy1221]

8 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Boy, you’re trying hard. 
 

It’s actually easy to speak truth   Sorry you don’t like The Big Guy’s own words and his foreign policy failures. 

[Archy1221]

Uh oh.  I guess we dont like Liz again now.   
 

 

 

[Archy1221]

Just think….Joseph Biden is doing all this in order to get some extra votes in Michigan and with da Yutes.  
 

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

43 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Uh oh.  I guess we dont like Liz again now.   
 

 

 

So you’re back to loving her. 
 

If you would pay attention, she agreed with everything republicans wanted to do other than Trump. 
 

She’s been proven to be the one right about him. Smart republicans should love her. 

[Scarlet]

It's not like Republican demigod Ronald Reagan ever withheld the delivery of military aid from Israel or anything 

[Archy1221]

17 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

It's not like Republican demigod Ronald Reagan ever withheld the delivery of military aid from Israel or anything 

Do you happen to know why he did and how that is quite different than what is going on now? 

[Archy1221]

Biden is getting crushed by the people who left say are credible Republicans.    
 

 

[Danny Bateman]

Shocker, he’s not a neocon. Knock me over with a feather.

 

What is it about this discussion that turns peoples’ minds into mashed potatoes?

[BigRedBuster]

7 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Biden is getting crushed by the people who left say are credible Republicans.    
 

 

What a load of BS.  
 

Republicans delayed aid to both of these countries for months and actually fought against giving either one anything.  
 

Now, they’re crying because Biden is trying to get Bibi to not use the weapons to kill innocent Palestinians?

 

And Republican sheep just eat it up and act like Biden is doing something so horrible. 
 

My god, it’s laughable how much their sheep will completely ignore what the party did for months only to then act like….”omg…Biden is horrible for putting demands on Bibi.”