knapplc Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 knapplc is usually on point with most things, but on this, he is way off. Colorado MUST be our rival because they are the only team in the north that has accomplished what we have. Their accomplishments RIVAL ours. ri·val (rvl) n. 1. One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor. 2. One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect. My head just.... asplode. In what way have they accomplished what we have? Here's a list of things Nebraska hangs their hat on. Fill me in on the ones CU has equaled us on: National Championships Conference Championships Wins (all time) Consecutive sellouts Heisman Trophy winners Any other trophy winner (any trophy, all time) Academic All-Americans Athletic All-Americans Head-to-Head wins That's a decent start. When we figure those out, I can give more. If you want to do the research I'd love to see the actual numbers but (SPOILER ALERT) they're not even close to us on any of those categories. NOTE - please read this in a respectful way. I'm not trying to be a buffoon here. Quote Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Oklahoma is our rival. Also, I would consider Missouri more of a rival then Colorado. Quote Link to comment
808Husker in KCMO Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 They have won a national championship. They have won conference championships. They have won games. They have a Heisman winner. They have a walter camp, dick butkus, doak walker, jim thorpe, john mackey, ray guy, AND a bear bryant coach of the year award* Name another school in the north with those things on their resume. They dont have as many, but they have been where we have been. They "attempt to equal or surpass" us. *No NU award Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Kansas State has won multiple awards, too. They also border our state. They've also had recent success against us. Does that mean they're our rivals? Quote Link to comment
Husker4lif3 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 How is Colorado more of a rival than Iowa State? Iowa State is our rival? Where the hell have i been? Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 This game has all the makings of a potential rivalry, but Nebraska flat owns CU in the W/L column. Not to mention right now both programs aren't on the same level. Not even the same universe. If Colorado got itself back to respectability, had a few good seasons, everything is in place. Last game of the season. Thanksgiving weekend. Hatred between the fan bases. Hopefully the North title will hinge on the victor. These types of things can over time develop into a rivalry, but as it exists right now, it's only spite for a classless program and a lackluster team. THIS. When I look at a rivalry game, I look at a game that has big implications on whoever the winner is and a game that has fans really reeling to beat the other fans' teams. Every year, I want to beat Colorado, but I don't want to beat them any more than I do any other team in the B12. I just want to beat them so our record gets better and so we better our post-season possibilities. This year, and in previous years, there has been literally nothing important about our match up against CU. We already won the B12 North, they have no bowl slot they are fighting for, and their coach is more than likely going to get the boot come season end. So yeah, do we get annoyed of listening to CU fans claim their victory over us months before the game even happens? Yes. Do we get sick of listening to them bicker about how bad we are? Yes. But the important thing is that we dominate the W/L record against them. It's not even close. I consider K-State a bigger rival than I do CU. Hell, I consider Texas a bigger rival than I do CU. Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 They have won a national championship. They have won conference championships. They have won games. They have a Heisman winner. They have a walter camp, dick butkus, doak walker, jim thorpe, john mackey, ray guy, AND a bear bryant coach of the year award* Name another school in the north with those things on their resume. They dont have as many, but they have been where we have been. They "attempt to equal or surpass" us. *No NU award Here is how I see it. Oklahoma/Nebraska has been a rivalry for the older Husker fans for decades and the younger Husker fans see the Colorado/Nebraska game as a rivalry because we grew up with it like that since the OU/NU match up every year went down the drain. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Guerrero Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Colorado is probably as close to a rival as NU has had since the start of the Big 12. OU may have been our rival when that game meant something but if you ask OU fan now and we are probably #3 to them. NU fans hold on to that one more then the Sooner fans do. Quote Link to comment
808Husker in KCMO Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Kansas State has won multiple awards, too. They also border our state. They've also had recent success against us. Does that mean they're our rivals? Quit being obtuse. Everyone knows that the sing outside of Manhattan KS proudly proclaims it as the home of the 1997 National Championship DEBATE TEAM. They have never been the best football program in the land. Colorado has. Quote Link to comment
tmfr15 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Arguing rival or not rival with any NU fan is hopeless. All of us have an opinion about it and won't change our minds. I will say, however, that the number of people who say rivalry now are a lot higher than they were back in the 90s or late 80s. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Colorado is not our rival. They're just obnoxious whiny fans like ksu fans. To me rivalry is a respectful matchup. I don't respect or have any concern over what happens to CU. I want to beat them like every other team. Which win would be more important to us (every 2 of 4)...Cu or OU? By that definition, KU/MU is not a rivalry.... And I consider it one of the most entertaining rivalry that exists. Right up there with Michigan/OSU which, by your deff. is not a rivalry either... A rivalry should at least be recognized by both sides. My definition of a rivalry isn't the same as everyone else's. I wasn't trying to tell anyone that. KU/MU is their rivalry and they hate each other. To me a rivalry is something that I have a healthy respect for the other team and a desire to see us play them more than the average team. To me colorado is just another game. You want it to be a rivalry...fine. Just tossing my 2 cents in. Quote Link to comment
HuskerMoon Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 How is Colorado more of a rival than Iowa State? This is how.. The following Schedules represent 30 years of football Bold Represent Nebraska Losses. Series with Iowa State: 2009 L 7 - 9 Lincoln 2008 W 35 - 7 Ames 2007 W 35 - 17 Lincoln 2006 W 28 - 14 Ames 2005 W 27 - 20 Lincoln OT 2004 L 27 - 34 Ames 2003 W 28 - 0 Lincoln 2002 L 14 - 36 Ames 2001 W 48 - 14 Lincoln 2000 W 49 - 27 Ames 1999 W 49 - 14 Lincoln HC 1998 W 42 - 7 Ames 1997 W 77 - 14 Lincoln 1996 W 49 - 14 Ames 1995 W 73 - 14 Lincoln 1994 W 28 - 12 Ames 1993 W 49 - 17 Lincoln 1992 L 10 - 19 Ames 1991 W 38 - 13 Lincoln 1990 W 45 - 13 Ames 1989 W 49 - 17 Lincoln HC 1988 W 51 - 16 Ames 1987 W 42 - 3 Lincoln 1986 W 35 - 14 Ames 1985 W 49 - 0 Lincoln 1984 W 44 - 0 Ames 1983 W 72 - 29 Lincoln 1982 W 48 - 10 Ames 1981 W 31 - 7 Lincoln 1980 W 35 - 0 Ames 1979 W 34 - 3 Lincoln Series With Colorado: 2008 W 40 - 31 Lincoln 2007 L 51 - 65 Boulder 2006 W 37 - 14 Lincoln 2005W 30 - 3 Boulder 2004 L 20 - 26 Lincoln 2003W 31 - 22 Boulder 2002 L 13 - 28 Lincoln 2001 L 36 - 62 Boulder 2000 W 34 - 32 Lincoln 1999 W 33 - 30 Boulder OT 1998 W 16 - 14 Lincoln 1997 W 27 - 24 Boulder 1996 W 17 - 12 Lincoln 1995 W 44 - 21 Boulder 1994 W 24 - 7 Lincoln HC 1993W 21 - 17 Boulder 1992 W 52 - 7 Lincoln HC 1991 T 19 - 19 Boulder 1990 L 12 - 27 Lincoln 1989 L 21 - 27 Boulder 1988 W 7 - 0 Lincoln 1987 W 24 - 7 Boulder 1986 L 10 - 20 Boulder 1985 W 17 - 7 Lincoln HC 1984 W 24 - 7 Boulder 1983 W 69 - 19 Lincoln HC 1982 W 40 - 14 Boulder 1981W 59 - 0 Lincoln 1980 W 45-7 Boulder 1979 W 38 - 10 28 # Lincoln I count 4 Losses to Iowa State in the last 30 years and a LOT OF NEBRASKA BLOWOUTS. Iowa State is an easy place to play. Cyclone fans are for the most part respectable and good hosts. I count 7 Losses and 1 Tie to Colorado in the last 30 years and a LOT of CLOSE GAMES.. Also Colorado has won Conference Championships and National Championships. Those are two qualities that I and a lot of other people look for in a rival.. Finally as a whole, the Colorado fans and program treat Nebraska fans poorly and without the respect we deserve making bad blood a factor and another important element for them being a rival. Thats why Colorado is a rival and Iowa State is not. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah 7 wins and 1 tie in 30 years....they've really taken it to us. As much as ABC wants this to be a rivalry....a lot of us just don't see it. Does Nebraska even need a rivalry? Quote Link to comment
BeachBuffs Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I just want to throw a piss bomb at all of you!!!! hahaha Quote Link to comment
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