clyde40 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Did someone actually argue that Nebraska needs to get back to the offense we ran in the '09 and '10 seasons (two very different offenses by the way - with the '09 offense among the worst in Husker history)? Did somone actually accuse our current offense - one of the best rushing offenses in the nation - of being a "finesse" offense? We do play power football. We also pass the football. It's a pretty cool offensive weapon and helps set up the power running game. Thing is... those people don't have a clue. Nebraska has a dang good offense and they should only be better next year. Some people assume that just because the offense mostly uses shotgun formation that it's a finesse offense. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Some people also assume that you can hand the ball to Rex Burkhead and it will magically become 1995 again. Quote Link to comment
clyde40 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I-FORMATION!!!!!!!!!! FB!!!!! Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 And if by "finesse" the poster means a high level of refinement and execution - like the dictionary does - Tom Osborne's triple option running attack was very big on finesse. There's still a baffling contingent of Huskerboard members who think dropping back to pass is a show of weakness. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did someone actually argue that Nebraska needs to get back to the offense we ran in the '09 and '10 seasons (two very different offenses by the way - with the '09 offense among the worst in Husker history)? Did somone actually accuse our current offense - one of the best rushing offenses in the nation - of being a "finesse" offense? We do play power football. We also pass the football. It's a pretty cool offensive weapon and helps set up the power running game. Fact: 09 we were 2 pts away from winning the conference and a bcs bowl game. Fact: 10 we were 4 pts away from winning the conference and a bcs bowl game. those two years we didn't suffer any 30+ pt blowouts. Fact: 11 didn't even make the championship game and suffered multiple 30+ blowouts. Fact: 12 we make the championship game and suffer multiple 30+ blowouts. we were 40+ away from winning the conference. sorry chief any fan would take the 09-10 years than the 11-12 years. We don't give our defense enough rest because of too many 3 and outs in like 5 mins. We are passing too much. we give up on the run too easily. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did someone actually argue that Nebraska needs to get back to the offense we ran in the '09 and '10 seasons (two very different offenses by the way - with the '09 offense among the worst in Husker history)? Did somone actually accuse our current offense - one of the best rushing offenses in the nation - of being a "finesse" offense? We do play power football. We also pass the football. It's a pretty cool offensive weapon and helps set up the power running game. No matter how much we run the ball, some people will always criticize the offense as too finessy. I don't get this. Our offense is exciting and has potential. It is a lot better, hands down than the 2009 and 2010 and 2011 offenses. Granted, we made the best out of a pretty epicly bad situation in 2009 with injuries and whatnot, and put a display on in the bowl for what could've been if we had dusted off the Rexcat sooner. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Did someone actually argue that Nebraska needs to get back to the offense we ran in the '09 and '10 seasons (two very different offenses by the way - with the '09 offense among the worst in Husker history)? Did somone actually accuse our current offense - one of the best rushing offenses in the nation - of being a "finesse" offense? We do play power football. We also pass the football. It's a pretty cool offensive weapon and helps set up the power running game. No matter how much we run the ball, some people will always criticize the offense as too finessy. I don't get this. Our offense is exciting and has potential. It is a lot better, hands down than the 2009 and 2010 and 2011 offenses. Granted, we made the best out of a pretty epicly bad situation in 2009 with injuries and whatnot, and put a display on in the bowl for what could've been if we had dusted off the Rexcat sooner. Zoogies just because this year's offense has potential doesn't make it better. They have made T-mart into a passer. He can pass but he will never be the passer that we need that can complete 85-95% of his passes every game. He is a runner and each year we have utilized that less and less because Bo is too scared to really see what we have behind Martinez. Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 85-95% is... kinda stretching it don't ya think. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 What team needs a passer that can complete 85-90% of his passes every game?... I agree that Taylor's potential as a runner needs to be used, but we have a pretty multi-faceted offense that masks serious deficiencies in its OL play and a non-proto passer prone to bad decisions and throws, to still get pretty solid production in both phases of the game. There's always room for improvement but Beck has done a lot with what he's got and it's shown in actual games this year. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 What team needs a passer that can complete 85-90% of his passes every game?... I agree that Taylor's potential as a runner needs to be used, but we have a pretty multi-faceted offense that masks serious deficiencies in its OL play and a non-proto passer prone to bad decisions and throws, to still get pretty solid production in both phases of the game. There's always room for improvement but Beck has done a lot with what he's got and it's shown in actual games this year. teams that rely on the pass. Seems we have been more than usual. Spread offenses are more passing based than run based. hence why when the qb has a bad day passing the whole offense comes to a stand still. Spread offenses needs a qb who can be an accurate passer and needs to have high completion rate. I agree that wide receivers have also dropped catches and that's also why we need wide receivers who act like they have glue on their hands to catch the ball instead of dropping them. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I think you're getting caught up in the terminology of 'spread' when we aren't a spread team, we run and run and ask our receivers to run block so we can run some more. I think if you look at our stats you'll see just how committed to the run we are, because more pass based offenses do not run like we do. And there isn't a QB in the country who completes passes at that clip! Quote Link to comment
HuskerTrucker Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 "Bo isn’t good enough to get over the hump. He isn't bad enough to fire. Nebraska is stuck in purgatory." As awful as it to say this, these three sentences sum up our current situation perfectly. The rest of the article here. Totally agree...things will have to change if Nebraska ever wants to contend for a NC again....Bo will not get us there. Quote Link to comment
Malth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 What team needs a passer that can complete 85-90% of his passes every game?... I agree that Taylor's potential as a runner needs to be used, but we have a pretty multi-faceted offense that masks serious deficiencies in its OL play and a non-proto passer prone to bad decisions and throws, to still get pretty solid production in both phases of the game. There's always room for improvement but Beck has done a lot with what he's got and it's shown in actual games this year. teams that rely on the pass. Seems we have been more than usual. Spread offenses are more passing based than run based. hence why when the qb has a bad day passing the whole offense comes to a stand still. Spread offenses needs a qb who can be an accurate passer and needs to have high completion rate. I agree that wide receivers have also dropped catches and that's also why we need wide receivers who act like they have glue on their hands to catch the ball instead of dropping them. lmao. The best completion percentage in the league belongs to David Fales of SJSU at 72.1%. Practically nobody completes more than 70% of their passes, and TMart is at 62.2% on the season. Taylor has issues with happy feet, bad decision making, and dropping the ball. He kills us when he goes into freshman mode and spots the other team 2-3 touchdowns. Quote Link to comment
IvabigN Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 "Bo isn’t good enough to get over the hump. He isn't bad enough to fire. Nebraska is stuck in purgatory." As awful as it to say this, these three sentences sum up our current situation perfectly. The rest of the article here. Totally agree...things will have to change if Nebraska ever wants to contend for a NC again....Bo will not get us there. Said another debbie downer nebraska fan Quote Link to comment
NebraskaHarry Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 "Bo isn’t good enough to get over the hump. He isn't bad enough to fire. Nebraska is stuck in purgatory." As awful as it to say this, these three sentences sum up our current situation perfectly. The rest of the article here. Totally agree...things will have to change if Nebraska ever wants to contend for a NC again....Bo will not get us there. Said another debbie downer nebraska fan they're everwhere Quote Link to comment
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