Offensive stats

[beanman]

You could blame this offense for the losses all you want, but we all know that defense wins championships. Point fingers, let Beck be the escape goat and keep lying to yourselves. Its quite sad how fast someone is to throw Beck under the bus and not once has Papuchis' name came out once in this thread. Fumbles are an issue, but not many of them went to the house, actually none of them did. Sure they gave good field advantage, but there is a difference between allowing 3 or 6(+1) points.

 

What is this escape goat you speak of?

 

Seriously dude, this is the 2nd time you've used this term. Let me help ya out buddy. This is coming from an Engineer who can hardly speak the English language better than a 10 year old.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scapegoat

[HuskerNationNick]

one thing I noticed today when the headlines were "Johnny Football one of only 5 players to pass for 3000 and run for 1000" -- that's within reach for Martinez. He should already be on that list.

 

333 passing yards and 27 rushing yards and he could do it.

[HuskerNationNick]

What is this escape goat you speak of?

 

Seriously dude, this is the 2nd time you've used this term. Let me help ya out buddy. This is coming from an Engineer who can hardly speak the English language better than a 10 year old.

 

http://www.merriam-w...onary/scapegoat

 

I am sorry since I have to spell everything correctly for you "Scapegoat" better? Thought this was an internet board, not English class.

[beanman]

You could blame this offense for the losses all you want, but we all know that defense wins championships. Point fingers, let Beck be the escape goat and keep lying to yourselves. Its quite sad how fast someone is to throw Beck under the bus and not once has Papuchis' name came out once in this thread. Fumbles are an issue, but not many of them went to the house, actually none of them did. Sure they gave good field advantage, but there is a difference between allowing 3 or 6(+1) points.

 

Just wanted to add that I just read an article the other day that gave some interesting stats: http://hailvarsity.com/2012/12/the-6-most-shocking-nebraska-stats-of-2012/

 

33.7% of our points given up came off of turnovers. I'm not saying our defense isn't awful; it is. But the offense needs to do its part not to put the defense in these positions all the time. If we had a solid front seven and reduced the turnovers; we'd be in very good shape. A great defense can overcome stuff like this (ie. 2009), but this defense isn't strong enough to come close to doing so.

[HuskerNationNick]

You could blame this offense for the losses all you want, but we all know that defense wins championships. Point fingers, let Beck be the escape goat and keep lying to yourselves. Its quite sad how fast someone is to throw Beck under the bus and not once has Papuchis' name came out once in this thread. Fumbles are an issue, but not many of them went to the house, actually none of them did. Sure they gave good field advantage, but there is a difference between allowing 3 or 6(+1) points.

 

Just wanted to add that I just read an article the other day that gave some interesting stats: http://hailvarsity.c...-stats-of-2012/

 

33.7% of our points given up came off of turnovers. I'm not saying our defense isn't awful; it is. But the offense needs to do its part not to put the defense in these positions all the time. If we had a solid front seven and reduced the turnovers; we'd be in very good shape. A great defense can overcome stuff like this (ie. 2009), but this defense isn't strong enough to come close to doing so.

 

Thats what I was trying to get to. Fumbles are a huge issue. The offense is not to blame for our losses this year, besides maybe the UCLA game, then again, we allowed 600+ yards. If we were to play a mistake free game, we would have won most of our games with no problem by 2 scores, but we still would have lost to tOSU and WI.

[Morrison]

Seiously, how can anyone blame these blowouts on the offense?! I'm sure martinez doesn't have 200 tackles so he sucks! If the offense scores 30 points we shouldn't lose a single game if the d is doing their job. I honestly question if some people watch the games or even know how the game is played when they question the o for the defenses problems!

 

While I agree with you that that Beck has been very good this year, let's be fair here. In the three blowout games, our offensive miscues have lead to quite a few points scored by the other team:

 

(Just going off of memory here, so I might miss some...)

 

Consider:

 

UCLA: Offense miscues lead to 12 points (maybe 19 points, depending on your viewpoint)

 

Ameer fumbles our first possession of the 2nd Half inside our own 20 - FG

Taylor throws an interception inside our own 30 - Missed FG (?)

Taylor takes a sack in the endzone late in the game - Safety/TD on ensuing UCLA possession (good field position...not sure if you pin that on the Offense, frankly)

Taylor throws a pick in crunch time, giving UCLA the ball inside our 20 - TD

 

Ohio St.: 14 Points

 

Taylor throws a pick 6 early - TD

Taylor throws another INT inside our own 20, returned inside the 10 - TD

 

Wisconsin: 14

 

Taylor throws a pick six on the first offensive snap - TD

Taylor throws an interception inside our 20, returned inside the 5 - TD

 

I think the most important thing we can improve on offensively moving into next year is the consistency in these big games. Sure, we can put up some points, but the offense has really put our D in some horrible positions in these games as well.

 

I like Taylor - I admire the heart and work ethic he's shown as a Husker - but as long as he is our quarterback we will turn the ball over, be it by fumbles or interceptions. Secondly, the blame for this goes on the O-line. They have done a pretty bang-up job in terms of the run game this year, there's no denying the stats. In pass pro, however, they have really struggled against the more athletic defensive lines we've faced (e.g. Ohio St. and UCLA), which has directly led to some of Taylor's poor decisions and TOs. Also, I don't have the stats in front of me, but I think our conversion % on third and less than two was pretty abysmal, something i attribute almost exclusively to the o-line and the OC.

 

This doesn't even take into account the propensity for the Offense to inexplicably go 3 & out after running 12 seconds off the clock. With more consistency on the offensive side of the ball we should be able to limit the other team's possessions and eat some clock. In most of these games, we rarely let our defense rest and regroup after a long drive - something that the offensive playcalling (and execution) needs to take into account when things start slipping.

 

So sure, we gave up alot of points in a few games this year, and most of the blame is rightfully on the defensive coaches and players. But don't forget the offense didn't do our D any favors in these games either. While I find most of the criticism of Beck to be irrational, there are some things he does need to improve on moving forward.

 

The good news is that I think he will. He's shown a TON of potential in his first two years - the improvement of our offense has been tremendous. Hopefully we can keep the guy around for the next couple of years - can't wait to see what he can do with Armstrong/Stanton and some of the young talent we'll have coming through. GBR

[knapplc]

I'm not trying to minimize the impact of offensive miscues, nor am I saying that our offense doesn't have some S to clean up, but in games where we got beat by 25 and 39 points, taking two TDs off the books means we still lose each game by double digits.

 

The offense has problems for which they should be answering. But the defense is a dumpster fire in comparison.

[ZRod]

Just wanted to add that I just read an article the other day that gave some interesting stats: http://hailvarsity.c...-stats-of-2012/

 

33.7% of our points given up came off of turnovers. I'm not saying our defense isn't awful; it is. But the offense needs to do its part not to put the defense in these positions all the time. If we had a solid front seven and reduced the turnovers; we'd be in very good shape. A great defense can overcome stuff like this (ie. 2009), but this defense isn't strong enough to come close to doing so.

Watch what I can do with numbers!

 

That means our defense gave up 66.3%, or about 2/3rds, of its points allowed by itself. I know that's not entirely true because there was a kick returned for a TD, but close enough. If you cut that down to 1/3 in the games we lost then we win every game this year, and win the 3 loses by double digit points. Boom! There you go Bo, just stop them from scoring a 3rd of the time and we win out.

[JTrain]

We've now been reduced to arguing which half of our team sucks the hardest.

[clyde40]

We've now been reduced to arguing which half of our team sucks the hardest.

It's the coaching staff, the other two halves are fine... wait a minute

[TGHusker]

 

 

Martinez 2012-16 fumbles (leads nations)

Martinez 2011-13 fumbles (leads nation)

Martinez 2010-16 fumbles (leads nation)

http://www.teamranki...er-stat/fumbles

 

 

 

If Taylor continues this trend, he would lead the nation for 4 years in a row. Not that I'm a statistician or anything, but has any college player led the nation in a single stat for 4 years in a row?

So what is the cure for fumblitist? any suggestions. Each time he runs in traffic I have to hold my breath -- As a freshman and soph - each time he threw a pass I had to hold my breath. He's improved his passing. Maybe this summer he hires a RB specialist to help him wt his fumble issue.

[beanman]

Just wanted to add that I just read an article the other day that gave some interesting stats: http://hailvarsity.c...-stats-of-2012/

 

33.7% of our points given up came off of turnovers. I'm not saying our defense isn't awful; it is. But the offense needs to do its part not to put the defense in these positions all the time. If we had a solid front seven and reduced the turnovers; we'd be in very good shape. A great defense can overcome stuff like this (ie. 2009), but this defense isn't strong enough to come close to doing so.

Watch what I can do with numbers!

 

That means our defense gave up 66.3%, or about 2/3rds, of its points allowed by itself. I know that's not entirely true because there was a kick returned for a TD, but close enough. If you cut that down to 1/3 in the games we lost then we win every game this year, and win the 3 loses by double digit points. Boom! There you go Bo, just stop them from scoring a 3rd of the time and we win out.

Wow, talk about completely missing the point of the post. Especially the part where I said our defense was awful.

[Whistlebritches]

We averaged almost 32 points per game this season despite being -11! (+21/-32) in turnover margin. I have no problem at all with what Beck is doing with our offense.

[kchusker_chris]

You could blame this offense for the losses all you want, but we all know that defense wins championships. Point fingers, let Beck be the escape goat and keep lying to yourselves. Its quite sad how fast someone is to throw Beck under the bus and not once has Papuchis' name came out once in this thread. Fumbles are an issue, but not many of them went to the house, actually none of them did. Sure they gave good field advantage, but there is a difference between allowing 3 or 6(+1) points.

thats because as the title states this thread is about the OFFENSE - you should be thanking everyone for staying on topic. (because there's already enough JP/defense threads)

[BigRedBuster]

We averaged almost 32 points per game this season despite being -11! (+21/-32) in turnover margin. I have no problem at all with what Beck is doing with our offense.

 

I have no problem with it either. Clean up the turnovers and keep developing it. I believe we can score on anyone.