Husker NoNo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I've been an Xbox user since the first one came out and had a 360 after that. This time around I was really hoping Sony would knock it out of the park so I could get a PS4. Most of MS policies rubbed me the wrong way...until I really thought about it. 1. Always Online: I have a bonified badass gaming PC. Always online has never been a negative in that respect. Imo, as these systems evolve, almost all games will eventually go this route. Not to mention you're going to need a steady connection for ANY type of multiplayer...and Destiny. Whoa momma! 2. Used Games: I haven't bought a used game in years and never sell my games. (You can't do this with steam or PC anyway) As far lending goes? At least I won't have to worry about my cheap ass, dead beat friends borrowing my sh#t and then hunting it back down a year later. 3. Worried about the Kinect spying on you? Don't do blow and bang hookers in front of the console. One last thing: Disc based games are going the way of the dodo. I haven't bought a physical copy of a PC game in about 5 years. Even the 'big' ones come as downloads that are usually cheaper than the physical copy anyway, and you never have to worry about it getting scratched or lost. So when Sony throws up this picture, and it says 'disc based games' at the bottom, they're actually saying the same thing MS has been saying. "It's the publishers decision." Just my 2 cents. 1 Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I haven't seen this brought up but figured I'd inform you all on the Playstation Plus vs Xbox Live Sure you have to have Playstation Plus to play games online BUT to watch entertainment stuff like Netflix, Amazon Plus, etc., you don't have to have Playstation Plus in order to watch those where the XBoxOne you'll need the XBox Live membership to play and watch movies/tv shows on Netflix, Amazon Plus, etc. Quote Link to comment
Lyons in the Sea of Red. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close. If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall. You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirts007 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close. If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall. You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close. You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story Quote Link to comment
Lyons in the Sea of Red. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close. If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall. You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close. You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story Yeah, try reading. I blatantly said in a reply to Landlords earlier that microsoft will be ruined if their current policies stay intact. Obviously the sales will be stronger for PS4. Microsoft has sh#t on themselves and the PS4 is cheaper, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bold statement of yours. All I said was that IF microsoft adapted the same policies, I believe the One would be a better console by a fair amount. But those are two huge factors that nearly everyone searching for a new console will take into account. I will not be buying either one, if that makes you feel any better. Because it seems like you really have a good feel for how I think. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirts007 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close. If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall. You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close. You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story Yeah, try reading. I blatantly said in a reply to Landlords earlier that microsoft will be ruined if their current policies stay intact. Obviously the sales will be stronger for PS4. Microsoft has sh#t on themselves and the PS4 is cheaper, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bold statement of yours. All I said was that IF microsoft adapted the same policies, I believe the One would be a better console by a fair amount. But those are two huge factors that nearly everyone searching for a new console will take into account. I will not be buying either one, if that makes you feel any better. Because it seems like you really have a good feel for how I think. And it takes a rocket scientist to to know Microsoft will shoot themselves in the foot with those policies? So you're saying that your one post about microsofts policies offsets your 5 counter arguments toward someone saying something positive about the ps4? Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Lyons--just give it up. Any trace of objectivity to these fanbois makes you a Microsoft lover, as they prefer the sound of their own echochamber. --- And never mind that Sony is already backtracking on their no-DRM stance, as it now doesn't apply to third party companies/publishers on the PS4--only first party titles. Also, same article, publishers can restrict used game sales on the PS4 if they so choose to. Huh...so this is all publisher-driven, and Sony will kowtow to the publishers, just like Microsoft. Granted, this isn't as draconian as daily DRM check-in for the XBox One, but it's a far cry from the DRM-free messiah console the PS4 supposedly was yesterday. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirts007 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And boom goes the dynamite. 1 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Lyons--just give it up. Any trace of objectivity to these fanbois makes you a Microsoft lover, as they prefer the sound of their own echochamber. --- And never mind that Sony is already backtracking on their no-DRM stance, as it now doesn't apply to third party companies/publishers on the PS4--only first party titles. Also, same article, publishers can restrict used game sales on the PS4 if they so choose to. Huh...so this is all publisher-driven, and Sony will kowtow to the publishers, just like Microsoft. Granted, this isn't as draconian as daily DRM check-in for the XBox One, but it's a far cry from the DRM-free messiah console the PS4 supposedly was yesterday. Perception of reality is entirely and absolutely more important than truth of reality, when it comes to business success. Unfortunately for Microsoft. The consoles are much more alike than people think, but it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Lyons--just give it up. Any trace of objectivity to these fanbois makes you a Microsoft lover, as they prefer the sound of their own echochamber. --- And never mind that Sony is already backtracking on their no-DRM stance, as it now doesn't apply to third party companies/publishers on the PS4--only first party titles. Also, same article, publishers can restrict used game sales on the PS4 if they so choose to. Huh...so this is all publisher-driven, and Sony will kowtow to the publishers, just like Microsoft. Granted, this isn't as draconian as daily DRM check-in for the XBox One, but it's a far cry from the DRM-free messiah console the PS4 supposedly was yesterday. Perception of reality is entirely and absolutely more important than truth of reality, when it comes to business success. Unfortunately for Microsoft. The consoles are much more alike than people think, but it doesn't matter. I'm willing to bet if Microsoft didn't have that horrendous reaction to their reveal (justified in it's own right)--they don't do as bad as E3 as everyone thinks they did. 1 Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Nice editing I'm trying to post a video and it wasn't working so I added this picture in its place since I was already going to post this picture on here anyways Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Damn video won't embed so guess you'll have to click the link 1 Quote Link to comment
Apathy Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Lyons--just give it up. Any trace of objectivity to these fanbois makes you a Microsoft lover, as they prefer the sound of their own echochamber. --- And never mind that Sony is already backtracking on their no-DRM stance, as it now doesn't apply to third party companies/publishers on the PS4--only first party titles. Also, same article, publishers can restrict used game sales on the PS4 if they so choose to. Huh...so this is all publisher-driven, and Sony will kowtow to the publishers, just like Microsoft. Lets’ be clear here, that’s a very different situation than the “all games are protected” stance of Microsoft. What Tretton is referring to is the ability for a publisher to implement their own way to restrict game functionality and collect a fee if someone purchases a used game. We have already seen this in practice for current gen consoles in the form of EA’s Project Ten Dollar / Online Pass. So, publishers can decide to implement such a system again, but the fact EA recently decided to kill Online Pass gives me confidence it isn’t going to happen, or at least not often. http://www.geek.com/...y-wish-1558559/ Quote Link to comment
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