Enhance Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 A lot of this conservative criticism comes off as just bigotry. I will admit that I found the commercial odd, but only because I previously identified that song as only sang in English. If anything, it ended up giving me an appreciation for different cultures/languages. If people spent less time complaining about the world and more time finding ways to enjoy it, it'd be a much happier place. 2 Link to comment
EbylHusker Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Muricans should only speak the one and true language, Murican! That goes for all commercials shown within the borders of our great 48 50 states. And all these people that are not pasty, obese, white and true Muricans need to go! MURICA! Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Well said strigori and Enhance. +1's Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 This is why other countries hate america... Some americans(small majority) are sooo cocky, that they think that English is the only language that matters. This country is made up of immigrants... We are all different, deal with it. 2 Link to comment
rawhide Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Said Native Americans NEVER. Or Dutch/S.A. American either Link to comment
walksalone Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Said Native Americans NEVER. Or Dutch/S.A. American either Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The same people who bitch about something like this will then go to the local small town festival celebrating the heritage of the people who settled there as immigrants. Just look at how many festivals like that we have in just Nebraska. Heck, when you drive into some small towns the signs on some businesses will be in Dutch or German celebrating that heritage. Around the country look at areas like Louisiana where in some areas French (or at least a cajun version of it) is still spoken. Look at the Amish areas where Pennsylvania Dutch is spoken. Look at areas in Chicago and NYC where Italian is still spoken and celebrated. BUT...God forbid if a company puts a commercial out there celebrating the diversity we have in the US with the most recent immigrants. Link to comment
carlfense Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To illustrate this, for example, when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible based on my beliefs which are rooted Biblicaly to what was taught to Christ and what Christ believed in. Sinners can't be Christian? Link to comment
zoogs Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Landlord & Colbert droppin' that boom. Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To illustrate this, for example, when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible based on my beliefs which are rooted Biblicaly to what was taught to Christ and what Christ believed in. Sinners can't be Christian? Here we get into a sticky dilemma concerning definitions of gay and Christian and what exactly is meant by that (orientation, practicing, love, etc.) that doesn't really belong in this thread. Link to comment
carlfense Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To illustrate this, for example, when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible based on my beliefs which are rooted Biblicaly to what was taught to Christ and what Christ believed in. Sinners can't be Christian? Here we get into a sticky dilemma concerning definitions of gay and Christian and what exactly is meant by that (orientation, practicing, love, etc.) that doesn't really belong in this thread. Really? I'm admittedly quite removed from the church now . . . but from what I remember if a person accepted Jesus as his lord and savior, etc. it wouldn't matter if he was a sinner (in this case, gay) . . . because we're all sinners. Sorry for the derail. Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 To illustrate this, for example, when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible based on my beliefs which are rooted Biblicaly to what was taught to Christ and what Christ believed in. Sinners can't be Christian? Here we get into a sticky dilemma concerning definitions of gay and Christian and what exactly is meant by that (orientation, practicing, love, etc.) that doesn't really belong in this thread. Really? I'm admittedly quite removed from the church now . . . but from what I remember if a person accepted Jesus as his lord and savior, etc. it wouldn't matter if he was a sinner (in this case, gay) . . . because we're all sinners. Sorry for the derail. I'll try not derailing it further, but the distinction lies in whether or not he meant a person of homosexual orientation or a person that practices homosexuality. Accepting Jesus as lord and savior presupposes spiritual regeneration and repentance of sin - so believing homosexuality is sinful, you're right that it wouldn't matter if they had homosexual orientation, but it would matter if they were still engaging in homosexual acts and lifestyle. Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It would matter the same as anyone who believes anything is a sin, yet still does it, thinks it, says it, does it, doesn't do it or any combination thereof. A person knows self-aggrandizement is sinful, yet still boasts. That is no different than a Christian who is actively homosexual (according to some). But there is no worldwide pogrom against boasting. The statement that originally started this conversation was, "...when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible." It is no more logically impossible to be gay and Christian than it is to be human and Christian - to be human is to be sinful, apart from God, unrighteous. The church calls homosexuality a sin, but it is just one amongst infinite kinds of sins. The church has this absurd focus on homosexuals/homosexuality. At least the current Pope is trying to stop that. 4 Link to comment
carlfense Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The statement that originally started this conversation was, "...when someone says they are both Gay and Christian...to me, that is logically impossible." It is no more logically impossible to be gay and Christian than it is to be human and Christian - to be human is to be sinful, apart from God, unrighteous. The church calls homosexuality a sin, but it is just one amongst infinite kinds of sins. The church has this absurd focus on homosexuals/homosexuality. At least the current Pope is trying to stop that. Perfectly said. +1 Link to comment
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