Red Five Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Not a good look for Wisconsin Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I tend to agree that we redshirt too many guys when we lack depth and talent overall already. There was a time when we were loaded at nearly all positions and could not only afford to redshirt guys, we really needed to redshirt as they would otherwise waste a year of eligibility by being a 4th string player that would get maybe 50 snaps in mop up duty when we were up by 40 and things were well in hand. Now, we are in the opposite circumstance of facing a shortage of talent in the first, second and third strings (not even sure we really have a third string as such?) and the fear is we will have to play these three star and low 4 star guys before they are physically or mentally ready as freshman and shatter their confidence, etc. Riley I am sure would like to play his best athletes, no matter what age or grade level, BUT he is following a plan to gradually rebuild and upgrade our overall talent - over a period of years. My suggestion was that he ought to redshirt his two best players at every position, in year one, if possible and play the thirds and fourths, no matter what the win/loss record would be. As it turned out, we did poorly in that area anyway. Immediately, act to ration and store up as much talent and build as much experience and depth as possible for years two and three. Snyder did this at K State and it was somewhat successfully done at KU (they only had a few good seasons before coaching changes doomed them). In addition to saving talent, en masse, the idea is to develop the back ups and get mroe competition across the team. 4th string guys often see themselves as so far down the chart they won't ever play and get discouraged. They get some playing time and it will boost confidence and encourage them to work even harder, helping entire team grow. Now, going forward, I am thinking that redshirting should be aimed at primarily players who are either injured and will start the season without game ready status, or have major major issues and need the year just to have a chance. (we should not be recruiting more than a handful of these a year at most to start with going forward). We used to have enough quality walkons to make up for the redshirt guys from the 85 but apparently now we really are about 12 players short of the minimum needed and that missing dozen kills us in the second half of the season when the going gets the toughest anyway. Perhaps the eligibility rules should be changed to permit a player to participate in no more than 200 quarters over a 5 season period (roughly about 12 or 13 games over 4 years at 4 quarters each). OTs would not be counted. This way, a few games for injuries and whatever would not spoil an entire year's eligibility. This would expand playing opportunities for many more athletes, which, is of course, the very reason for the sport in the first place, correct. Quote Link to comment
Frostberg Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 You think Nebraska will be in play here? https://twitter.com/RyanBartow/status/864079131021062144 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Boy I hope so, that would really make a differnce on this season. Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Who recruited him to Oregon State? Edit: Riley and Cav recruited him originally, though he was a TE prospect out of high school. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Who recruited him to Oregon State? Edit: Riley and Cav recruited him originally, though he was a TE prospect out of high school. Position be damned, they receuited him and could sell him here on dire need. Gotta think we are interested and if we are we would have to be an instant leader. Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Before we jump to conclusions...is he actually any good? Better than Knevel? Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Who recruited him to Oregon State? Edit: Riley and Cav recruited him originally, though he was a TE prospect out of high school. Position be damned, they receuited him and could sell him here on dire need. Gotta think we are interested and if we are we would have to be an instant leader. Oh yeah the position thing doesn't make a difference really I would think. But shows he probably has some good athleticism. As for your question Decked, it's hard to say, I can't seem to find alot about him as far as his O line play is concerned Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Was a low-three-star out of high school. In 2015 he apparently had mono and missed a lot of the year but started the last few games. Only played in four games last year but I can't find any reason. Quote Link to comment
Frostberg Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Played in 10 games in 2014, 4 games in 2015, and 3 games in 2016. OVERVIEW Two career starts Enters spring ball as one of seven offensive linemen with starting experience Helped found a non-profit organization with several former OSU student-athletes “Believe in Better” designed to assist with the costs associated with participation in youth athletics believeinbetterinc.org/wordpress/join-the-team/ Will challenge for playing time in the fall OREGON STATE2015 (SOPHOMORE) Was vying for a starting spot at offensive tackle during fall camp until he came down with an illness Cleared to play in time for Game 7, vs. Colorado and was forced into that game by injury Started the next three games – the first of his career – at left tackle Played in four games starting two Earned Pac-12 All-Academic First Team honors Named to the Wuerffel Trophy Preseason Watch List 2014 (REDSHIRT FRESHMAN) Suffered a thumb injury in fall camp that left him playing with a club for the rest of the year Played in 10 games on the field goal and PAT teams Earned Pac-12 All-Academic First Team as a special teams player 2013 (FRESHMAN) Redshirt Originally arrived for fall camp at Oregon State as a walkon Awarded a scholarship in September Suffered a foot injury early in fall camp sidelining him until the first bye week Recruited by the Beavers as a tight end but moved to offensive line upon his return from injury Info from the OSUBeavers website. 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Bring him in. We are under the 85 anyways and god knows we are thin at tackle. 1 Quote Link to comment
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