HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It looks like one of Hillary's big donor is "crossing the line" according to NBC by offering a large sum of money to dig up dirt on Trump. http://freebeacon.com/politics/david-brock-offers-money-new-dirt-donald-trump/ Link to comment
funhusker Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. I keep seeing this 60minutes video posted as evidence Hillary thought Obama was a Muslim. My question for "anti-Hillary" folks: have you? transcript: first question Do you believe Obama is a Muslim? HRC: "Of course not." Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. Of course you believe Hillary started it. When in fact it was Hillary supporters, and her actual campaign team wanted nothing to do with it. I read Game Change a few years ago. It went into detail about how both Hillary and and her inner circle basically disavowed any campaign member/surrogate who made race an issue. Do you honesty believe Obama would name her SoS if she actual started it? Do you think that Obama would campaign for her if she actually started it? Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. I keep seeing this 60minutes video posted as evidence Hillary thought Obama was a Muslim. My question for "anti-Hillary" folks: have you? transcript: first question Do you believe Obama is a Muslim? HRC: "Of course not." Did you watch til the end...she leaves a bit of doubt. Moreover, you are ignoring all the evidence in the links I provided showing that the Obama is a Muslim and doesn't have "american roots" coming DIRECTLY FROM her 2008 campaign. Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. Of course you believe Hillary started it. When in fact it was Hillary supporters, and her actual campaign team wanted nothing to do with it. I read Game Change a few years ago. It went into detail about how both Hillary and and her inner circle basically disavowed any campaign member/surrogate who made race an issue. Do you honesty believe Obama would name her SoS if she actual started it? Do you think that Obama would campaign for her if she actually started it? Mark Penn was her Chief campaign strategist...do you not call that part of her inner circle? Link to comment
admo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is this election becoming about who I am supposed to hate more to cast a vote? Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Also gotta love Trump today hinting at a Hillary assassination for a 2nd time. Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Also gotta love Trump today hinting at a Hillary assassination for a 2nd time. Link to comment
funhusker Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It was a :23 video...did you? Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It was a :23 video...did you? Yes, she ends the video with a tone that questions whether what she was saying was really what she believed. Moreover, look at the link with the memo from Mark Penn, her chief campaign strategist. There is a whole section devoted to questioning Obama's American roots. Link to comment
funhusker Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Also gotta love Trump today hinting at a Hillary assassination for a 2nd time. I'm thoroughly confused. Was it okay for Clinton to make careless remark? Or is Trump an even bigger douche than Hillary because he took any context clues out of the assassination hint? You posted the video. Was it to prove the remarks are okay? Or was it to show Hillary is careless and Trump can be even worse? Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What a coward. Makes a statement then runs and hides from the press. The Hillary bit is completely false. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/#sharethefacts And what exactly did Trump end? Trump just played CNN and they are pis*ed and have spent the entire day discussing the birther topic. As for Hillary's involvement, there have been plenty of reports that folks in her campaign were aware and/or tied to the birther argument being pushed, including Hillary's team pushing a photo of Obama dressed in Muslim apparel. http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/obama-slams-smear-photo-008667 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579833/Barack-Obama-tribal-photo-sent-to-Drudge-Report-by-Hillary-Clinton-staff.html http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?o=0 And let's not forget that Hillary's chief strategist (Mark Penn) in 2007 included in their campaign strategy a focus on conveying Obama's "Lack of American roots" where this was stated: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/ Now I don't agree with Trump pushing this birther theory at all, and believe it was dumb to bring it up today given Hillary was in a freefall from her health woes and deplorables comment, but it's also dishonest for CNN to deny that Hillary's campaign was not pushing this narrative back in 2008. Of course you believe Hillary started it. When in fact it was Hillary supporters, and her actual campaign team wanted nothing to do with it. I read Game Change a few years ago. It went into detail about how both Hillary and and her inner circle basically disavowed any campaign member/surrogate who made race an issue. Do you honesty believe Obama would name her SoS if she actual started it? Do you think that Obama would campaign for her if she actually started it? Mark Penn was her Chief campaign strategist...do you not call that part of her inner circle? Ok? And her campaign never accused Obama of being born in Kenya. Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Also gotta love Trump today hinting at a Hillary assassination for a 2nd time. I'm thoroughly confused. Was it okay for Clinton to make careless remark? Or is Trump and even bigger douche than Hillary because touch any context clues out of the assassination hint? You posted the video. Was it to prove the remarks are okay? Or was it to show Hillary is careless and Trump can be even worse? bnil's move is "but Hillary" to anything that Trump has done. Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Also gotta love Trump today hinting at a Hillary assassination for a 2nd time. I'm thoroughly confused. Was it okay for Clinton to make careless remark? Or is Trump an even bigger douche than Hillary because he took any context clues out of the assassination hint? You posted the video. Was it to prove the remarks are okay? Or was it to show Hillary is careless and Trump can be even worse? Well for starters I haven't seen what Trump said, and like with the birther stuff, I don't condone either candidate doing such things. Link to comment
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