Saunders Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The CIA inspector general’s office has said it “mistakenly” destroyed its only copy of a comprehensive Senate torture report, despite lawyers for the Justice Department assuring a federal judge that copies of the documents were being preserved. ... The 6,700-page report contains thousands of secret files about the CIA’s use of “enhanced” interrogation methods, including waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other aggressive interrogation techniques at “black site” prisons overseas. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cia-mistakenly-destroys-copy-of-6700-page-us-torture-report-feinstein-a7034096.html Uh huh... sure. And no one will be held accountable for this 'accident' at all. Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I might be in the minority here but I have absolutely no issues with what the CIA done to get information. 1 Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I might be in the minority here but I have absolutely no issues with what the CIA done to get information. And this is why we fail as a country--the end never justifies the means. Well, that's what I learned when going to Sunday School, anyway. They probably don't teach that now, what with it being a completely inconvenient concept and all. 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sounds like the missing 23 minutes in the Nixon tapes, the missing Rose Law firm documents (later to be conveniently found), the destroyed IRS hard drive - the list could go on and on from both parties of items conveniently lost, destroyed, shredded, etc. All CYA actions. Accidents don't happen in politics, they are arranged. Link to comment
cm husker Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I know if the "ends justify the means" or not. Because they destroyed the report. We can't have a government, in any capacity of their duties, say "we did what we had to do, just trust us." I'm not going to jump to conclusions about whether this data is lost forever, but there's no doubt that in a free and open society, that report should have been subject to declassification and examination by the citizenry. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sounds like the missing 23 minutes in the Nixon tapes, the missing Rose Law firm documents (later to be conveniently found), the destroyed IRS hard drive - the list could go on and on from both parties of items conveniently lost, destroyed, shredded, etc. All CYA actions. Accidents don't happen in politics, they are arranged. Snowden seems to concur. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 What if they really did just destroy it by accident? Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 What if they really did just destroy it by accident? I can imagine they started to destroy it on accident, realized what happened and just said "Meh, keep going" That is a lot of pages to "accidentally" destroy. Link to comment
cm husker Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 What if they really did just destroy it by accident? People fired for incompetence? Also, how could there be no electronic record? Was this a handwritten report? Link to comment
Saunders Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 What if they really did just destroy it by accident? That doesn't happen. Link to comment
teachercd Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I might be in the minority here but I have absolutely no issues with what the CIA done to get information. You are not in the minority Link to comment
cm husker Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Problem is, no one who is ok with it even knows what information was derived. We can't say the means are justified if we dontknow the ends. Link to comment
C N Red Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 We are getting skewered, mostly by "citizens" of our own country, for waterboarding, meanwhile there are people out there cutting off heads and dipping people in acid. Link to comment
cm husker Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 We are getting skewered, mostly by "citizens" of our own country, for waterboarding, meanwhile there are people out there cutting off heads and dipping people in acid. Have any of the "means" reached the "ends" of capturing or killing those people? Fact is, probably not. But apparently we can't know because the record was destroyed. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 We are getting skewered, mostly by "citizens" of our own country, for waterboarding, meanwhile there are people out there cutting off heads and dipping people in acid. We have satellites, and a crapton of other technology. Seems to me if we can't get the info we need through other means and have to use antiquated methods then we're a bunch of idiots. Link to comment
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