zoogs Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Science and 'religious freedom' in Trump's America On Friday, News Corp reported that Snelling’s Grand Canyon research project had been approved after he agreed to drop a lawsuit against the national park’s administrators. Snelling had sued the US Department of the Interior in May alleging religious discrimination after his proposal to remove 50 to 60 “fist-sized” rock samples had initially been rejected for lacking scientific merit. His lawyers argued the park violated a recent Donald Trump executive order expanding religious freedom, while Snelling told the Australian that the administrators “turned me down because they didn’t like the question I was asking”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/australian-creationist-uses-trump-order-to-get-permission-to-take-rocks-from-grand-canyon?CMP=fb_gu Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 This family is delusional. https://www.facebook.com/CAFE/videos/1884510828538468/ 2 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/politics/trump-prayer-photo/index.html "We similarly prayed for President Obama but it's different with President Trump," Moore said. "When we are praying for President Trump, we are praying within the context of a real relationship, of true friendship." I have no problem with people praying for Trump, but it's a good thing God doesn't care whether they like the person they're praying for. On a related note here's a big list of bogus stories about Obama's religion, Obama cancelling national prayer day, Obama excempting Muslims from the ACA, etc. http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/eight-years-of-trolling-obama/ 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 What a horrible person that is. That's my whole issue with "religion". Under the guise of gifting someone by praying for them, but you still position some better than others. More deserving of better prayers. Not Christian. Not kind. Not considerate. Not honest. So your prayers for "friends" resonate differently than those you put in for the POTUS? Disingenuous and slimey. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 President Trump just ended a long tradition of celebrating Ramadan at the White House Why Does Donald Trump Keep Dissing Jews? Trump's America: Where religion is great, as long as it is the one true religion. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I don't understand why people say "Obama was a Muslim!" As a criticism of him. First of all is this substantiated by any evidence? Secondly is that really a problem if he was? Isn't freedom of religion in the very first amendment to the Constitution? Like what kind of criticism is that? Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 A "scary" one if you are afraid of brown people or folks that don't look like you, or belong to a religion other than your own, or who believe in things you don't understand. 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Reminds me of a great song lyric "don't understand it? Ban it!" Truly the conservative mentality. Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/opinions/paul-ryan-congress-dress-opinion-robbins/index.html I don't know how Paul Ryan wound up on the other side of this story, but good for him! I also don't know who Mel Robbins is, but I hope we remember the next time she opines about anything that she once said this: Professionalism in public office is under an unprecedented attack, both by the public and politicians. Maybe if Greg Gianforte had been wearing a suit on May 24, he wouldn't have felt as free to assault a reporter in the then-candidate's office She loudly proclaims herself to be a feminist here, which I find extremely hard to believe given that she penned this entire spiel without once recognizing the obvious gender disparity of the rule, a disparity which was the entire topic to begin with. Is she being intentionally obtuse? It wasn't a man being turned away for wearing a polo, which she for whatever reason does bring up. Oblivious or outright disingenuous, I can't tell. It's hard to give the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 To this my comment is, wearing a suit doesn't equal professionalism. You can put lipstick on a pig. Mr. Trump requires his staff to wear a suite & tie at all times (including his sons) and for women to dress "for the job". Yet I'd point out that their administration has been called by all (R & D alike), undisciplined, unprofessional etc. Many of us would certainly choose other words to describe them, but dress code has never been a problem. (Side note: sleeveless seems to be ok inside the WH and within the Trump family). BUT - my spin on this, and it's based on a past experience I had in a somewhat conservative work place. I don't think women should be sleeveless or wear open toed shoes (unless it's business casual, and even then you wouldn't see me in them). Now when I look at reporters now days there doesn't seem to be much other than sleeveless, so I'm not sure how that plays out in DC., but in my world it's not something I'd do. Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 I do personally agree with the salutary effects of dressing up a bit more. I don't think it should be mandatory, though. When it is, it's inherently uneven. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I see an inherent flaw in the white smock study. Attaching the title of Doctor changes it so it's not just about clothing but about the importance of the job - i.e. people can live and die based on whether a Doctor is paying attention. In doing it this way they didn't prove it was the clothing. The possible confounding variable of "job title" was in the study which means they didn't prove it had anything to do with the clothing. Maybe people told they're Doctors before doing a task perform it better than people told they're artists regardless of what they're wearing. Maybe if you dressed everyone in the study in a clown suit, the ones told they're wearing clown suits worn by doctors at a children's hospital would perform the task better than would those told they're wearing clown suits worn by artists. Maybe the ones in Doctor's clown suits would perform the task as well as or better than those in Doctor's white smocks. Also,"And in negotiation tests, participants who wore suits got better results than those who negotiated in sweats. Clothes made the difference." This is a different conversation. Above is how well you do a job that requires paying attention. This quote is about how people perceive you. In some cases that goes hand in hand with how well you're doing the job (e.g. with negotiating as they're saying) but that isn't always the case. For example, I meet with all my clients over the phone. The only effect clothing could have is in how I do my job, not how I'm perceived by the client based on my clothing. That quote is about perception. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 6+ tweets in the last 48 hours advertising that he will be at the US Open in Bedminster ... reminder, this is his property and not only is he getting $ from the tourney, but each tweet is an ad for it. 1 Link to comment
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