TheSker Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight.The new staff has been aware of the talent level, or allegedly lack thereof, since taking the job two years ago. Check out Clemson's two deep on the defensive line. How many scholarships do you think we can hand out each year? Fixing the depth issues WILL take time because of scholarship limitations. And you can't just go out and recruit nothing but linemen one year to "fix" the problem because not only will you end up in the same position 4 years down the road when that group graduates but you also are robbing other positions of bodies so those positions begin suffering from depth issues as well. The best way to fix this imo, is by hiring more ace recruiters. We'll have to endure some pain but life is like a bed of roses, some beauty and pain. I agree about the need for ace recruiters. That is not unique to Nebraska. Now, if you would, please take a look at the Clemson two deep DL. You'll see they have one senior and are loaded with underclassmen. If the problem was identified two years ago........ Quote Link to comment
Elf Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight.The new staff has been aware of the talent level, or allegedly lack thereof, since taking the job two years ago. Check out Clemson's two deep on the defensive line. How many scholarships do you think we can hand out each year? Fixing the depth issues WILL take time because of scholarship limitations. And you can't just go out and recruit nothing but linemen one year to "fix" the problem because not only will you end up in the same position 4 years down the road when that group graduates but you also are robbing other positions of bodies so those positions begin suffering from depth issues as well. The best way to fix this imo, is by hiring more ace recruiters. We'll have to endure some pain but life is like a bed of roses, some beauty and pain. I agree about the need for ace recruiters. That is not unique to Nebraska. Now, if you would, please take a look at the Clemson two deep DL. You'll see they have one senior and are loaded with underclassmen. If the problem was identified two years ago........ I see you completely ignore the fact that we have recruiting limitations. Quote Link to comment
cornstar Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight.The new staff has been aware of the talent level, or allegedly lack thereof, since taking the job two years ago. Check out Clemson's two deep on the defensive line.How many scholarships do you think we can hand out each year?Fixing the depth issues WILL take time because of scholarship limitations. And you can't just go out and recruit nothing but linemen one year to "fix" the problem because not only will you end up in the same position 4 years down the road when that group graduates but you also are robbing other positions of bodies so those positions begin suffering from depth issues as well.The best way to fix this imo, is by hiring more ace recruiters. We'll have to endure some pain but life is like a bed of roses, some beauty and pain.I agree about the need for ace recruiters. That is not unique to Nebraska. Now, if you would, please take a look at the Clemson two deep DL. You'll see they have one senior and are loaded with underclassmen. If the problem was identified two years ago........I see you completely ignore the fact that we have recruiting limitations. Since when? I just thought that recruiting failures were due to lazy coaches. Quote Link to comment
marko polo Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight.The new staff has been aware of the talent level, or allegedly lack thereof, since taking the job two years ago. Check out Clemson's two deep on the defensive line. How many scholarships do you think we can hand out each year? Fixing the depth issues WILL take time because of scholarship limitations. And you can't just go out and recruit nothing but linemen one year to "fix" the problem because not only will you end up in the same position 4 years down the road when that group graduates but you also are robbing other positions of bodies so those positions begin suffering from depth issues as well. The best way to fix this imo, is by hiring more ace recruiters. We'll have to endure some pain but life is like a bed of roses, some beauty and pain. I agree about the need for ace recruiters. That is not unique to Nebraska. Now, if you would, please take a look at the Clemson two deep DL. You'll see they have one senior and are loaded with underclassmen. If the problem was identified two years ago........ You could have a 100 bodies for the lines but if they are just average and the coaching is average or below well.........I think you get my point Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight.The new staff has been aware of the talent level, or allegedly lack thereof, since taking the job two years ago. Check out Clemson's two deep on the defensive line. How many scholarships do you think we can hand out each year? Fixing the depth issues WILL take time because of scholarship limitations. And you can't just go out and recruit nothing but linemen one year to "fix" the problem because not only will you end up in the same position 4 years down the road when that group graduates but you also are robbing other positions of bodies so those positions begin suffering from depth issues as well. The best way to fix this imo, is by hiring more ace recruiters. We'll have to endure some pain but life is like a bed of roses, some beauty and pain. I agree about the need for ace recruiters. That is not unique to Nebraska. Now, if you would, please take a look at the Clemson two deep DL. You'll see they have one senior and are loaded with underclassmen. If the problem was identified two years ago........ I see you completely ignore the fact that we have recruiting limitations. You're missing the point. Clemson has the same limitations, yet they've loaded their 2 deep with talented freshmen and sophomore's after replacing (about) 20 underclassmen on defense the last few years. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight. Who are the guys who Banker has brought in to upgrade the D? Quote Link to comment
Vitalis Jackson Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight. Who are the guys who Banker has brought in to upgrade the D? Watch for them over the next couple of seasons. There was a lot more going on in terms of personnel this year than is readily apparent. There were some seniors playing that did more harm than good. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 This wasn't on Banker, NU is still trying to replenish a shelf left bare by the Pelini debacle and sifting out the old stuff. Defensive coaching can't make players faster or more talented. The DB's played soft because they couldn't match the speed of Vol receivers, and Gerry's total team abandonment hurt NU very badly. The remaining NU players did what they could given lack of depth and experience. Good players make coaches look good. We are still a ways from having a full, talented bench. This won't happen overnight. Who are the guys who Banker has brought in to upgrade the D? Watch for them over the next couple of seasons. There was a lot more going on in terms of personnel this year than is readily apparent. There were some seniors playing that did more harm than good. Oh, this excuse again. How long are we going to trot it out? Starting next year, the guys in the program will have more time with the current crew, so if this theory is to believed, we'll see a massive jump from all the "Pelini guys" holding us back. Again, name the guys who Banker has recruited and landed to upgrade the D? Quote Link to comment
clyde40 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 If players were dogging it this year they should not have been playing, or should have been out of the program. The whole excuse of Bo's players poisoning this year doesn't hold water. Quote Link to comment
Big Red 40 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The "Pelini Recruits" excuse is pretty lame. We have plenty of four star recruits on both sides of the ball that his staff recruited. Far more than the Iowa team that blew us off the field for instance . The coaches job is to develop that talent and get the most out the players you have right now. Win games and compete every time out. They get paid a ton of money to do this. Not to force their "system" or make excuses for losing games because they don't have "Their" players. Yeah eventually you'll get your players and can run your system but the real top quality coaches can win with other coaches recruits, inferior talent etc So i'm not buying the talent excuse. Earn your paycheck coaches. 2 Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Curious how y'all feel about your S&C coach(es)? Watching the game yesterday reminded me a lot of watching a pac12 game. Sure there were bad angles and guys out of place, but there seems to be an epidemic in the pac12 that marathon runners > actual weight training. Did Riley bring that philosophy with him? Some of those missed tackles looked like guys simply lacking the finishing strength that you get from good ol Olympic weight training. Banker said yesterday we need more speed and size on the defensive side of the ball. I thought that news flash was about two years old when the S&C guy Riley brought in and Epley referred to similar things. Evidently the staff has made zero progress in two years. Every coach wants more size and speed. Banker needs to decide where to focus. More speed without losing size, or more size without losing speed. Quote Link to comment
Dansker Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Curious how y'all feel about your S&C coach(es)? Watching the game yesterday reminded me a lot of watching a pac12 game. Sure there were bad angles and guys out of place, but there seems to be an epidemic in the pac12 that marathon runners > actual weight training. Did Riley bring that philosophy with him? Some of those missed tackles looked like guys simply lacking the finishing strength that you get from good ol Olympic weight training. Banker said yesterday we need more speed and size on the defensive side of the ball. I thought that news flash was about two years old when the S&C guy Riley brought in and Epley referred to similar things. Evidently the staff has made zero progress in two years. Every coach wants more size and speed. Banker needs to decide where to focus. More speed without losing size, or more size without losing speed. I'd go for a coach that has a proven record of fielding a top 15 defense year in and year out. Banker doesn't have a clue. He was the weak link at OSU as well. Its just too bad MR cannot see this. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Been saying this for awhile now: 5.53: Yards per play allowed this season by Mark Banker’s defense. That’s the second-worst mark of the Big Ten era for the Huskers, ahead of only the 2015 defense, which allowed 5.88 yards per play. This season, NU played four offenses — Oregon, Ohio State, Tennessee and Wyoming — ranked in the nation’s top 50 in yards per game. In those four games, NU gave up an average of 478.25 yards per game, 6.48 yards per play and, when you subtract OSU’s two defensive touchdowns, 33.75 points per game. NU’s defense improved this year, but not as much as the offenses NU faced got worse. The Huskers faced the Nos. 80, 88, 94, 107, 120, 121 and 123 offenses in the nation. OWH 4 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Been saying this for awhile now: 5.53: Yards per play allowed this season by Mark Banker’s defense. That’s the second-worst mark of the Big Ten era for the Huskers, ahead of only the 2015 defense, which allowed 5.88 yards per play. This season, NU played four offenses — Oregon, Ohio State, Tennessee and Wyoming — ranked in the nation’s top 50 in yards per game. In those four games, NU gave up an average of 478.25 yards per game, 6.48 yards per play and, when you subtract OSU’s two defensive touchdowns, 33.75 points per game. NU’s defense improved this year, but not as much as the offenses NU faced got worse. The Huskers faced the Nos. 80, 88, 94, 107, 120, 121 and 123 offenses in the nation. OWH We've somehow become a worse blitzing team than under Bo. That's unfathomable. 1 Quote Link to comment
GlobalHusker Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 So I read the post from the OSU grad that stated OSU wanted banker out as DC back then, and here we are sharing the same sentiment. Could Riley let him go, though?? He didn't at OSU. And at what would be the breaking point for that to happen? Quote Link to comment
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