The Republican Utopia

[Guy Chamberlin]

3 hours ago, ZRod said:

And he's in boots 

 

At least they're not white and rubber.

[TGHusker]

Good article on why the current GOP is the way they are.   Yes, I believe the current GOP is the new version of the old southern white Democrat party.   The racists, Neanderthals (no offense to real Neanderthals meant) of old have gathered under the GOP banner.    There are still many good people in the GOP but it is these cult members who suck all of the air out of the party and make it incredibly difficult for moderates or 'establishment' type GOPers to govern.   There needs to be political purge of these types during the next election cycles.  

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/15/political-violence-civil-war-q-a-00127350

 

 

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Back in the 1800s, there were “fighting men” who roamed the halls of Congress — lawmakers who served as unofficial enforcers of the party line, ready to deploy violence as needed to silence their opponents.

Joanne Freeman, a Yale historian who studies political violence in America and Congress, recalled this rather remarkable notion in an interview with POLITICO Magazine while discussing a pair of other absurd, yet ominous episodes on Capitol Hill Tuesday.

First there was former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy apparently throwing a sharp elbow into Rep. Tim Burchett just weeks after Burchett voted to oust McCarthy from the speakership. Burchett accused McCarthy of landing a “clean shot to the kidney,” though McCarthy denied the allegations, blaming any contact on the “tight hallway.”

Then MMA-fighter-turned-Senator Markwayne Mullin readied himself for a brawl with Teamsters President Sean O’Brien in the middle of a Senate hearing. The two have previously bickered in the Capitol and online, but this time Mullin urged the labor leader to “stand your butt up” and finish their argument without using their words — even beginning to remove his wedding ring until Sen. Bernie Sanders stepped in to head off the fight.

“It’s certainly not the first time that there has been this kind of aggressive behavior or even physical violence in Congress,” said Freeman, author of “The Field of Blood: Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War.”

When comparing today’s bitter politics and the runup in the 1850s to the Civil War, Freeman sees “more echoes than parallels” and cautions against taking the analogy too far. Back then, Southerners in Congress were so adamant about defending the institution of slavery that they routinely used threats and occasionally even violence in their disputes. Those shows of force are incredibly rare now, she noted, but clearly the two skirmishes in a single day on Capitol Hill signal we’re no longer in an era of “normal politics.”

Notably, Tuesday’s tiffs were not the product of partisan squabbles between Republicans and Democrats, but the result of deep rifts within the GOP.

“They’re not a single party. They’re a divided party,” Freeman said, with no real leadership and no way to bring discipline or accountability to members. That’s what’s fueling these confrontations.

But no, she added, the answer to ending such bickering is not to bring back dueling.

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

 

Great job republicans!!!  
 

 

[BigRedBuster]

Wonderful party with ‘Merica best interest at heart. 
 

 

[BigRedBuster]

True

 

 

[Scarlet]

Most likely would be the ankle

 

 

[BigRedBuster]

This needs to be said to the entire damn party. 
 

 

[knapplc]

The Republicans are not sending their best and brightest, volume 732. 

 

 

NEW: The bipartisan House Ethics Committee says it found substantial evidence of criminal wrongdoing by George Santos and recommends referral to the Justice Dept. "At the completion of its investigation, the ISC unanimously concluded that there was substantial evidence that Representative George Santos: knowingly caused his campaign committee to file false or incomplete reports with the Federal Election Commission; used campaign funds for personal purposes; engaged in fraudulent conduct in connection with RedStone Strategies LLC; and engaged in knowing and willful violations of the Ethics in Government Act as it relates to his Financial Disclosure (FD) Statements filed with the House."

 

 

 

 

 

The report:

• Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit. • He blatantly stole from his campaign.

• He deceived donors into providing what they thought were contributions to his campaign but were in fact payments for his personal benefit.

• He reported fictitious loans to his political committees to induce donors and party committees to make further contributions to his campaign – and then diverted more campaign money to himself as purported "repayments" of those fictitious loans.

• He used his connections to high value donors and other political campaigns to obtain additional funds for himself through fraudulent or otherwise questionable business dealings. • He sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience.

 

[commando]

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

The Republicans are not sending their best and brightest, volume 732. 

 

 

NEW: The bipartisan House Ethics Committee says it found substantial evidence of criminal wrongdoing by George Santos and recommends referral to the Justice Dept. "At the completion of its investigation, the ISC unanimously concluded that there was substantial evidence that Representative George Santos: knowingly caused his campaign committee to file false or incomplete reports with the Federal Election Commission; used campaign funds for personal purposes; engaged in fraudulent conduct in connection with RedStone Strategies LLC; and engaged in knowing and willful violations of the Ethics in Government Act as it relates to his Financial Disclosure (FD) Statements filed with the House."

 

 

 

 

 

The report:

• Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit. • He blatantly stole from his campaign.

• He deceived donors into providing what they thought were contributions to his campaign but were in fact payments for his personal benefit.

• He reported fictitious loans to his political committees to induce donors and party committees to make further contributions to his campaign – and then diverted more campaign money to himself as purported "repayments" of those fictitious loans.

• He used his connections to high value donors and other political campaigns to obtain additional funds for himself through fraudulent or otherwise questionable business dealings. • He sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience.

 

now can they throw him out of congress?

[DevoHusker]

 

 

 

[knapplc]

I genuinely don't get what Santos was doing here. He knew all of this was illegal. It's almost like he was on a suicide mission. 

 

He doesn't appear to be the type of guy who would do well in prison. So why risk it?

[commando]

21 minutes ago, knapplc said:

I genuinely don't get what Santos was doing here. He knew all of this was illegal. It's almost like he was on a suicide mission. 

 

He doesn't appear to be the type of guy who would do well in prison. So why risk it?

he is a MAGA loyalists.    they are getting as many of those in power as possible for the takeover.

[knapplc]

6 minutes ago, commando said:

he is a MAGA loyalists.    they are getting as many of those in power as possible for the takeover.

 

He's going to be in jail before the next election. He's likely going to be removed from congress before that. Even if Orange Man Bad returns to power and pardons him, he can't just jump back into congress. 

[BigRedBuster]

My….god this sums up the Republican Party. 
 

 

[TGHusker]

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

My….god this sums up the Republican Party. 
 

 

Don't they have the common sense to clear the chambers?