knapplc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Here's why Trump is purging DHS. He wants too break the law and actually factually shut down the border, and the people he's firing opposed that. There are going to be a lot of Nuremberg Defenses attempted at the trials to come. Doubt "I was just following orders" will get the people who are doing Trump's dirty work off the hook. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, knapplc said: There are going to be a lot of Nuremberg Defenses attempted at the trials to come. Doubt "I was just following orders" will get the people who are doing Trump's dirty work off the hook. It almost certainly will work. People who committed torture were given a Presidential pardon under Obama. I expect we'll see more of the same for the Trump Team, especially since many of them are wealthy. Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedDenver said: It almost certainly will work. People who committed torture were given a Presidential pardon under Obama. I expect we'll see more of the same for the Trump Team, especially since many of them are wealthy. The water-boarders? Because that was done to establish that it was, in fact, illegal. If it wasn't illegal, there wouldn't be a need for a pardon. Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Donald "Word Salad" Trump, for your reading pleasure. Link to comment
commando Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, knapplc said: Donald "Word Salad" Trump, for your reading pleasure. lieutenant general semonite turns to his aides 3 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, knapplc said: The water-boarders? Because that was done to establish that it was, in fact, illegal. If it wasn't illegal, there wouldn't be a need for a pardon. That was and still is one of the flimsiest legal arguments I've ever heard. Between the 8th Amendment and the Geneva Convention, torture is illegal both nationally and internationally. Regardless, the "only following orders" defense will almost certainly win IMO, but Team Trump members are unlikely to ever even be charged. You have far, far more optimism in the justive system than I if you think they'll ever be tried let alone convicted. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Trump is going to use this data to torture more kids. Link to comment
ZRod Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, knapplc said: Trump is going to use this data to torture more kids. So, are we sending aid and money to the nations they are coming from? You know to help fix the real problem? 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZRod said: So, are we sending aid and money to the nations they are coming from? You know to help fix the real problem? See, that would just fix the problem. But we need the problem to be as much of a problem as possible, so, yeah. Funny story... Trump cuts aid to Central American countries as migrant crisis deepens 2 Link to comment
commando Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, knapplc said: See, that would just fix the problem. But we need the problem to be as much of a problem as possible, so, yeah. Funny story... Trump cuts aid to Central American countries as migrant crisis deepens 2 1/2 years of trump and his band of skin head diplomats "fixing" the border crisis and it's worse then ever. nice. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 hours ago, commando said: 2 1/2 years of trump and his band of skin head diplomats "fixing" the border crisis and it's worse then ever. nice. Fixing the actual problem with diplomacy and foreign aid would mean they can't dupe the poorly educated into thinking building a wall and putting babies in cages will fix everything. And you know what? The poorly educated vote. For Trump. Link to comment
ZRod Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Where are our Trump buddies? I wonder what there hot take is on this. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You proud of this, Trump-lovin' conservatives? Is this what you crave? Not only is it immoral, not only is it illegal, but it's a ridiculous misappropriation of taxpayer dollars. It's embarrassing this crap was even considered. Let alone the fact someone like Nielsen sat there with a straight face and didn't tell the president no. It goes back to what I was saying about how Trump keeps people on board: the brand. It's not about effective immigration policies or good use of federal money, it's about deliberate cruelty and vindictiveness towards one's enemies. 1 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 There is a pretty easy way to tell when someone DIDN'T tell Trump something ... 2 Link to comment
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