RedDenver Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, marko polo said: and even if TO struggled "some" he was able to stay relevant because he had a much higher baseline from the get go But that wasn't your argument. You claimed people have limits that they can't overcome, specifically you're arguing Riley can't overcome his previous mediocre record, but TO regressed and then showed he could exceed the limits people thought he had. Maybe Riley can overcome the expectations people have for him. 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, TheTallTexan said: I stick with my signature line. It should be: Delusional enough to think we were getting Saban. Got Herman, lost to Maryland. Enjoy not making your conference championship game. 1 Quote Link to comment
marko polo Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, RedDenver said: But that wasn't your argument. You claimed people have limits that they can't overcome, specifically you're arguing Riley can't overcome his previous mediocre record, but TO regressed and then showed he could exceed the limits people thought he had. Maybe Riley can overcome the expectations people have for him. it is very unlikely he will substantially rise above his baseline!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
ebohnart Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, marko polo said: I think they call that coaching so do I. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, RedDenver said: But that wasn't your argument. You claimed people have limits that they can't overcome, specifically you're arguing Riley can't overcome his previous mediocre record, but TO regressed and then showed he could exceed the limits people thought he had. Maybe Riley can overcome the expectations people have for him. Please point me to the part of TO's previous record that was "mediocre". 4 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Mavric said: Please point me to the part of TO's previous record that was "mediocre". I never said TO had a mediocre record. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, RedDenver said: I never said TO had a mediocre record. So there's not much of a comparison with Riley, is there. 4 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, Mavric said: So there's not much of a comparison with Riley, is there. Oh for the love of... I'm making a comparison about expectations and limits of the two coaches. It's entirely reasonable for the expectations of Riley's limits to be false. For example, there was a certain expectation of TO's limits that turned out to be false. 2 Quote Link to comment
Whistlepig Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Oh for the love of... I'm making a comparison about expectations and limits of the two coaches. It's entirely reasonable for the expectations of Riley's limits to be false. For example, there was a certain expectation of TO's limits that turned out to be false. might be "reasonable" but not probable and as far as TO's limits, since you cite no details of meaning, I'm not sure you can prove those "expectations" were false- unless of course you're talking about the "fans" expectations- those same expectations that almost got TO to go to Colorado. Except that they were both coaches for Neb, kind of a bad analogy 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Whistlepig said: might be "reasonable" but not probable and as far as TO's limits, since you cite no details of meaning, I'm not sure you can prove those "expectations" were false- unless of course you're talking about the "fans" expectations- those same expectations that almost got TO to go to Colorado. Except that they were both coaches for Neb, kind of a bad analogy Everything we're discussing on these boards are "fan expectations", so it's a pretty apt comparison. Quote Link to comment
Whistlepig Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 yes they both coached at Nebraska Quote Link to comment
commando Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 the gopher fan trolling the husker board schtick is getting kind of old already. 1 Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Whistlepig said: yes they both coached at Nebraska Well, you got me. I must be misremembering all the "TO can't win the big games" talk from the late 80's and early 90's. TO and MR being HC at Nebraska is the only valid comparison. Spoiler Do I need to add: ? 1 Quote Link to comment
Whistlepig Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 you're welcome-anything I can do to clear the equivocation in the situation and make it a reasonable analogy 1 Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 They have something else in common. Ass-kickings. TO gave them...Riley got them 3 Quote Link to comment
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