funhusker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Let's say Iowa beats Michigan. Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU. That would mean, I assume, the following: Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY. Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times. How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU? I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense! Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, funhusker said: Let's say Iowa beats Michigan. Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU. That would mean, I assume, the following: Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY. Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times. How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU? I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense! Because you are only looking at the small sample comparison of Michigan and Nebraska. Michigan, as a whole, would have a much better resume than NU. Quote Link to comment
MileHighHusker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, ScottyIce said: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology New one is up. Still in our same spot. The frustrating thing about this is basically no matter what outcomes occur in games right now these teams listed below have absolutely true negative movement: Alabama Syracuse Oklahoma Florida State Last night I clicked through the history on that and we've been in the same spot for about two weeks. I don't think that gets updated as often as the date says. Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, funhusker said: Let's say Iowa beats Michigan. Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU. That would mean, I assume, the following: Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY. Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times. How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU? I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense! #1 - Nebraska beat Iowa once, it'll be twice if they win in the tournament #2 - Head to Head results matter very little when there are so many games in a season and so many variables to consider #3 - Look at the resumes for each team, Michigan's is better on paper RECORD VS. DI = 23-7 / 22-9 CONF. RECORD = 13-5 / 13-5 SOS = 87 / 126 RPI = 25 / 55 VS. TOP 50 = 2-4 / 1-5 VS. 100+ = 16-1 / 18-1 Which team looks better on paper? Michigan is currently projected as a 5 seed. If they lose to Iowa, they might drop to a 6 or 7, but they're not getting left out. Edited March 1, 2018 by HS_Coach_C 2 Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) NVM Edited March 1, 2018 by HS_Coach_C Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, HS_Coach_C said: #1 - Nebraska beat Iowa once #2 - Head to Head results matter very little when there are so many games in a season and so many variables to consider #3 - Look at the resumes for each team, Michigan's is better on paper RECORD VS. DI = 23-7 / 22-9 CONF. RECORD = 13-5 / 13-5 SOS = 87 / 126 RPI = 25 / 55 VS. TOP 50 = 2-4 / 1-5 VS. 100+ = 16-1 / 18-1 Which team looks better on paper? Michigan is currently projected as a 5 seed. If they lose to Iowa, they might drop to a 6 or 7, but they're not getting left out. PAPER CHAMPS BABY Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ScottyIce said: PAPER CHAMPS BABY 1 game doesn't determine who gets in the tournament... St. John's should be in over Villanova, Boston College in over Duke, and Oklahoma State in over Kansas using that argument. If Nebraska had played at Michigan it would be a better argument. They win tomorrow that should leave no doubt. If they lose, it basically invalidates our only good win of the year. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, HS_Coach_C said: 1 game doesn't determine who gets in the tournament... St. John's should be in over Villanova, Boston College in over Duke, and Oklahoma State in over Kansas using that argument. If Nebraska had played at Michigan it would be a better argument. They win tomorrow that should leave no doubt. If they lose, it basically invalidates our only good win of the year. lol, how did you get that by my comment? Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 According to RPIForecast's Wizard: - a win over Michigan would bump the RPI to 43, and SOS to 95. - a win over Iowa would bump the RPI to 55, and SOS to 105 - a loss to Michigan would move the RPI to 60. - a loss to Iowa would cause lots of drinking, and people possible jumping into the Missouri River. 3 Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ScottyIce said: lol, how did you get that by my comment? Sorry, I meant to add that to my reasoning of why head to head results matter very little... don't know how/why I ended up quoting you Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, HS_Coach_C said: Sorry, I meant to add that to my reasoning of why head to head results matter very little... don't know how/why I ended up quoting you Haha, no biggy. I just love to shout from the mountain tops... PAPER CHAMPS BABY! I didn't mean anything by it Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Here are some teams to root for in conference tournaments so at-large bids aren't stolen. If any team not listed below wins a conference tournament, it will make the bubble smaller for teams like Nebraska. Power 6: ACC: Virginia, Duke, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Miami, Virginia Tech (Florida State is also probably a lock) Big 12: Kansas, West Virginia, Texas Tech, TCU Big East: Xavier, Villanova, Seton Hall, Butler (and if you can stomach it - Creighton) Big Ten: NEBRASKA, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State (Michigan is a lock for the tourney but we need to beat them) Pac-12: Arizona (probably USC also if they beat UCLA this week and Arizona State if they beat Cal & Stanford) SEC: Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas (probably Texas A&M or Missouri as well) Other conferences with possible At-Large teams: America East: Vermont American: Cincinnati, Wichita State, or Houston Atlantic 10: Rhode Island (St. Bonaventure is probably also in so that won't hurt either) Conference USA: Middle Tennessee (they'll be on the bubble if they lose) Missouri Valley: Loyola-Chicago (they'll be on the bubble if they lose) Mountain West: Nevada Summit: South Dakota State (probably doesn't matter) Sun Belt: Louisiana (probably doesn't matter) West Coast: Gonzaga or St. Mary's Western: New Mexico State (probably doesn't matter) Conferences with only 1 bid no matter what: Atlantic Sun: doesn't matter Big Sky: doesn't matter Big South: doesn't matter Big West: doesn't matter Colonial: doesn't matter Horizon: doesn't matter Ivy: doesn't matter Metro Atlantic: doesn't matter MAC: doesn't matter MEAC: doesn't matter Northeast: doesn't matter Ohio Valley: doesn't matter Patriot: doesn't matter Southern: doesn't matter Southland: doesn't matter Southwestern: doesn't matter Edited March 1, 2018 by HS_Coach_C 4 Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 8:57 AM, HS_Coach_C said: Rooting interests (in order of how much it would help Nebraska): 2/28 Boston College over Syracuse - check Xavier over Providence - check Clemson over Florida State - check Pitt over Notre Dame (not a big deal if Notre Dame wins) - miss Texas A&M over Georgia (not a big deal, but Georgia isn't too far off the bubble) - check UCONN over Temple (Temple is still close to the Bubble according to some) - check 5/6 yesterday - BONUS: St. John's beat Butler On 2/28/2018 at 8:57 AM, HS_Coach_C said: Let's hope today is just as good: 3/1 Michigan over Iowa/Illinois winner Virginia over Louisville Cal over Arizona State Oregon State over Washington Georgia Tech over NC State Arkansas State over Louisiana (take away any chance of Louisiana getting an at-large bid) 3/2 NEBRASKA over Michigan/Iowa/Illinois winner (none of this matters if they don't win this game) Iowa State over Oklahoma If you think Nebraska needs another good win, then root Michigan State, if you want an easier path to the championship, root against them 3/3 NEBRASKA over Michigan State/Wisconsin/Maryland winner West Virginia over Texas St. John's over Providence Stanford over Arizona State LSU over Mississippi State Texas A&M over Alabama NC State over Louisville Clemson over Syracuse Virginia over Notre Dame St. Louis over St. Bonaventure Oregon over Washington Colorado over Utah Creighton over Marquette Boston College over Florida State Tennessee over Georgia Kansas State over Baylor (I don't know if it matters which way this one goes, I just hope the loser gets bumped out) 3/4 NEBRASKA to win the Big Ten Championship Game No low RPI teams to win their conference tournaments and steal at-large bids 2018 Bubble Teams.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HS_Coach_C said: Here are some teams to root for in conference tournaments so at-large bids aren't stolen. If any team not listed below wins a conference tournament, it will make the bubble smaller for teams like Nebraska. Power 6: ACC: Virginia, Duke, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Miami, Virginia Tech (Florida State is also probably a lock) Big 12: Kansas, West Virginia, Texas Tech, TCU Big East: Xavier, Villanova, Creighton, Seton Hall, Butler Big Ten: NEBRASKA, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State (Michigan is a lock for the tourney but we need to beat them) Pac-12: Arizona (probably USC also if they beat UCLA this week and Arizona State if they beat Cal & Stanford) SEC: Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas (probably Texas A&M or Missouri as well) Other conferences with possible At-Large teams: America East: Vermont American: Cincinnati, Wichita State, or Houston Atlantic 10: Rhode Island (St. Bonaventure is probably also in so that won't hurt either) Conference USA: Middle Tennessee (they'll be on the bubble if they lose) Missouri Valley: Loyola-Chicago (they'll be on the bubble if they lose) Mountain West: Nevada Summit: South Dakota State (probably doesn't matter) Sun Belt: Louisiana (probably doesn't matter) West Coast: Gonzaga or St. Mary's Western: New Mexico State (probably doesn't matter) Conferences with only 1 bid no matter what: Atlantic Sun: doesn't matter Big Sky: doesn't matter Big South: doesn't matter Big West: doesn't matter Colonial: doesn't matter Horizon: doesn't matter Ivy: doesn't matter Metro Atlantic: doesn't matter MAC: doesn't matter MEAC: doesn't matter Northeast: doesn't matter Ohio Valley: doesn't matter Patriot: doesn't matter Southern: doesn't matter Southland: doesn't matter Southwestern: doesn't matter I AM NOT GOING TO ROOT FOR CREIGHTON... EVER 5 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Michigan's been on a good run themselves. Hopefully we can beat them again. Edited March 1, 2018 by Moiraine Quote Link to comment
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