BigRedBuster Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, knapplc said: "Both sides" is always an apology for the worst side. Can we all just stop using that phrase? Sometimes it’s appropriate. 2 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Sometimes it’s appropriate. It's never appropriate because there are never just two sides. It's a fallacy and a copout. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 9 hours ago, knapplc said: It's never appropriate because there are never just two sides. It's a fallacy and a copout. I disagree. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I disagree. Some agree. Some disagree. Some see two sides of the argument. Some think one is maybe a bit more right than the other, but still sees the other point of view. That's like 4 sides to a simple difference over points of view. Crazy. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 I wonder how history is going to look back at a name like 'Boogaloo Boys.' 1 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 *grabs coffee, opens Twitter* *closes Twitter* 2 1 Link to comment
QMany Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 " 'Both sides' propose changes in response to systemic police brutality." Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, QMany said: " 'Both sides' propose changes in response to systemic police brutality." Give me door #1 please. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: Give me door #1 please. I agree but Biden at least is campaigning on $300 million MORE in funding for police. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedDenver said: I agree but Biden at least is campaigning on $300 million MORE in funding for police. To me, that doesn't really tell the story. I would be for more funding for police departments if it is to finance completely reorganizing the training programs and the force. People say "defund the police". But, what they really want is going to take a lot of money...which I'm more than willing to spend to fix the problem. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: To me, that doesn't really tell the story. I would be for more funding for police departments if it is to finance completely reorganizing the training programs and the force. People say "defund the police". But, what they really want is going to take a lot of money...which I'm more than willing to spend to fix the problem. Police budgets have been going up years while many other services are being defunded. So at the very least, we should reallocate some of that money for more training. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Police budgets have been going up years while many other services are being defunded. So at the very least, we should reallocate some of that money for more training. No doubt. The everything needs to be on the table. If it can be done simply by reallocating current funds...GREAT!!! But, If it takes more funds, I'm all for funding it. Long term, I think our police force can do it with less funding. But, that will mean we need more funding in areas of social services and other activities that have been discussed as a replacement. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: No doubt. The everything needs to be on the table. If it can be done simply by reallocating current funds...GREAT!!! But, If it takes more funds, I'm all for funding it. Long term, I think our police force can do it with less funding. But, that will mean we need more funding in areas of social services and other activities that have been discussed as a replacement. Completely agree. Link to comment
knapplc Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 Inspired by Trump's "good people" from Charlottesville, I presume: 1 Link to comment
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