Nebfanatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Saunders said: Which is mind boggling, because I'm pretty sure that makes like half the state a bunch of rapists. Then again, the state of California also thinks that plastic gives you cancer and makes you put a warning label on an packages going to the state, so..... I mean, they probably have research to support this conclusion, just sayin lol 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Enhance said: Oh, and I think it's equally wise for a handful of you to probably not question any more what is or isn't sexual assault. According to the state of California, a person under 18 can't legally consent to sex, which inherently makes it a 'sexual assault.' We can go back and forth about nuance all we want but it is what it is. There's a point to be made there, though. The conversation seems to be focused on the girl being a victim. That would need to be proven in a court of law, otherwise, she's as guilty as the boys. The girl in the video is a minor, and thus the boys could be charged with unlawful sex (or sexual assault, whichever term a prosecutor wants to use). But, the girl in the video could also be charged with having unlawful sex with the boy, who was also a minor. I wonder if that's why she hasn't pressed charges. The burden of proof would, at least partially, be on her to show that it was non-consensual. Lots of muddy waters here. 4 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: I mean, they probably have research to support this conclusion, just sayin lol It's pretty much garbage, but I'm not gonna derail this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Saunders said: It's pretty much garbage, but I'm not gonna derail this thread. Well dammit why not!? /s 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, Nebfanatic said: Well dammit why not!? /s I'm not that bored! 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Saunders said: Which is mind boggling, because I'm pretty sure that makes like half the state a bunch of rapists. Then again, the state of California also thinks that plastic gives you cancer and makes you put a warning label on an packages going to the state, so..... Wait, is the girl who was allegedly assaulted vaccinated? There could be a loophole here. 3 Quote Link to comment
C N Red Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Husker03 said: Good to know that having pause about believing this new assault allegation automatically means I probably look at child porn pics. I’ll try to do better to model my character after you. 3 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said: geesh guy take a joke Whoa, im seeing a red flag with this guy Hedley. Pretty defensive. Better call Chris hansen. 2 hours ago, Enhance said: Well put. Personally, I don't have any issue with the media digging into any of this. That's their job and, now that they've sniffed out some irregularities, they're not going to stop any time soon. That said, I still don't see enough smoke here to signal a significant fire, or at least not enough to start predicting things like someone is going to lose their job (which is what was claimed on S&B this morning). This sort of feels like someone who left the coffee pot plugged in before leaving for work. Could it be something more? Ehhh... I guess? Some of the reaction to all of this is little more than peak off-season behavior. I feel it's wiser to let everything play out. Oh, and I think it's equally wise for a handful of you to probably not question any more what is or isn't sexual assault. According to the state of California, a person under 18 can't legally consent to sex, which inherently makes it a 'sexual assault.' We can go back and forth about nuance all we want but it is what it is. Were the boys in the video under 18? If so they were all comitting assault against each other. How do you prosecute that? I really think it was a "consensual" thing that happened with underage kids and some idiot took video. 1 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, C N Red said: Whoa, im seeing a red flag with this guy Hedley. Pretty defensive. Better call Chris hansen. Were the boys in the video under 18? If so they were all comitting assault against each other. How do you prosecute that? I really think it was a "consensual" thing that happened with underage kids and some idiot took video. All of the participants in the video were under 18. The girl is saying it was not consensual. You can choose to believe her or not. 2 Quote Link to comment
C N Red Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said: All of the participants in the video were under 18. The girl is saying it was not consensual. You can choose to believe her or not. Did i miss where she said it wasnt? I dont remember her saying that. And to be truthful, whats not to say her mom saw video, asked her what the hell, girl tells mom they forced her to make it look better. Theres so many possibilities with how this went down and it being years ago. I dont believe for a second the girl and kids around the school didnt know this video was out there. Stuff like that gets shared and talked about because humans as teens are especially idiotic. 3 2 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Why does the assualt thing even matter? Was Washington aware she claims it was nonconsensual? If she was assualted then she was assualted and the perpertrators should be held accountable but I fail to see what that has to do with Washington. From my understanding the video was widespread and appears consensual. That in no way means it was consensual, but it also means there is no reason for the viewer to believe it was assualt unless told so. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Why does the assualt thing even matter? Was Washington aware she claims it was nonconsensual? If she was assualted then she was assualted and the perpertrators should be held accountable but I fail to see what that has to do with Washington. From my understanding the video was widespread and appears consensual. That in no way means it was consensual, but it also means there is no reason for the viewer to believe it was assualt unless told so. It honestly doesn't, at least in terms of Washington. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, C N Red said: Did i miss where she said it wasnt? I dont remember her saying that. And to be truthful, whats not to say her mom saw video, asked her what the hell, girl tells mom they forced her to make it look better. Theres so many possibilities with how this went down and it being years ago. I dont believe for a second the girl and kids around the school didnt know this video was out there. Stuff like that gets shared and talked about because humans as teens are especially idiotic. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/University-of-Nebraska-Football-Player-Maurice-Washington-Faces-Revenge-Porn-Child-Porn-Charges-Over-Video-of-Bay-Area-Teen-505666711.html?akmobile=o "They’re driving this way, and I’m like, ‘Jack in the Box is back that way,’" Taylor said. "And I said that probably 30 times to them, and eventually they pulled over at this park, with houses on the left-hand side, and they’re like, ‘We’re going to have a threesome.’" Taylor said she froze, terrified. "That’s when they started to rape me, and while I was being raped, they took a video that I had no idea about." Although she did not report the incident as a rape at the time because she says she felt ashamed, Taylor told NBC Bay Area the video depicts a sexual assault, not a consensual sex act. Taylor alleges the teen boys in the video forced her into having sex after telling her they were going to a fast food restaurant. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Why does the assualt thing even matter? Was Washington aware she claims it was nonconsensual? If she was assualted then she was assualted and the perpertrators should be held accountable but I fail to see what that has to do with Washington. From my understanding the video was widespread and appears consensual. That in no way means it was consensual, but it also means there is no reason for the viewer to believe it was assualt unless told so. As far as Washington is concerned all that matters is if he thought it was assault. But some of the media is using the assault allegation to make him seem like more of an a$$h@!e. 2 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: It honestly doesn't, at least in terms of Washington. It only matters because he was avoiding being interviewed so the police didn't know if he knew it was an assault. That's why it matters at all. And also why they are not pursuing those charges on him now. 1 Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: It honestly doesn't, at least in terms of Washington. I suppose if it was assualt it would be more traumatizing and hurtful to relive that moment. If Washington was aware, that does make things worse. But who knows if he knew. Quote Link to comment
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