Cdog923 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 ....Tom Osborne needs to stay home when it comes to legislation: https://www.omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/tom-osborne-testifies-against-gambling-bills-senator-says-nebraska-losing/article_7de6b464-2a16-5716-835d-541fa3227482.html 5 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Maybe not as unpopular as you would think... 2 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 From Osborne: “Most of the really unpleasant interactions I had with fans were people who had lost a bet,” Gambling is happening and it's not going away. And it is happening at a high enough rate that significant taxes could be collected. I don't even get why this is a "debate". 2 Link to comment
HUSKER 37 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: ....Tom Osborne needs to stay home when it comes to legislation: https://www.omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/tom-osborne-testifies-against-gambling-bills-senator-says-nebraska-losing/article_7de6b464-2a16-5716-835d-541fa3227482.html I never understood why people would bet anything other than sexual favors on a sporting event..Especially one with a prolate spheroid shaped ball. I still wonder if Dr. Tom ever suspected if Fryer dropped that one pass on purpose. Spoiler 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cdog923 said: ....Tom Osborne needs to stay home when it comes to legislation: https://www.omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/tom-osborne-testifies-against-gambling-bills-senator-says-nebraska-losing/article_7de6b464-2a16-5716-835d-541fa3227482.html Tom has a right to an opinion like everyone else. Let him speak. Meanwhile here in Tulsa - since the state made a pack wt the Indian tribes back around 2004 we've become a gambling mecca. If you come to Tulsa there are 3 large casino complexes - one to the NE on I-44, one north of downtown and one in south Tulsa. All mega million hotel/casino complexes. But those 3 are a drop in the bucket. According to the Oklahoma Indian Gaming Association, there are over 71,000 slot machines/video poker machines in the state, along with over 4,600 bingo seats. In fact, there are currently 102 casinos in Oklahoma. Who would ever thought that 'buckle of the Bible belt' state like Okla would become such a gaming hot spot? https://nondoc.com/2019/12/17/oklahoma-problem-gambling-treatment-limitations/ Part of the article quoted here - the bold is the most important. Quote Oklahoma ranks as the fifth most gambling-addicted state in America, with an estimated 75,000 problem gamblers and historically high numbers of gambling-related embezzlement cases. According to a June study from the National Council on Problem Gambling, 60 percent of surveyed state citizens think the gaming industry should do more to help addicts. Similarly, 38 percent think the government should do more. “We’re third in the nation for number of slot machines, and yet we’re 20th in the nation in money for treatment, awareness and so forth,” said Wiley Harwell, director of the Oklahoma Association on Problem and Compulsive Gambling. In Oklahoma, tribal nations have exclusive rights to operate casinos, except for games administered at horse racing tracks. The compact defining the state-tribal agreement is the subject of an ongoing and tense political fight. What no one disputes is that gaming revenue helps fund tribal programs for education, infrastructure, health care and more. “(Gaming is) the cornerstone of our business portfolio, which means that it’s the cornerstone of our economic independence,” said Cherokee Nation Chief Chuck Hoskin Jr. “It has fueled so much of what we’ve been able to do.” Harwell said tribal donations account for more than half his budget. He said some tribes also fund their own programs and health centers that address behavioral health issue, such as problem gambling. “Tribes definitely participate,” Harwell said. “There are about five large tribes that contribute to us financially.” The board of Harwell’s nonprofit includes a central voice in tribal gaming: Matthew Morgan, chairman of the Oklahoma Indian Gaming Association. Together, the two organizations lead Tribal Voices, a responsible gaming advocacy group that promotes a Smart Play OK campaign for responsible gambling. In addition, Morgan works as director of gaming for the Chickasaw Nation, which operates 22 of Oklahoma’s 134 casinos and reported $1.4 billion in gaming revenue for 2017. A founding member of Harwell’s organization, the Chickasaw Nation donates $50,000 to it annually, Morgan said. The Cherokee Nation is also a member of the Oklahoma Association on Problem and Compulsive Gambling and has donated nearly $550,000 to the organization over the past three years, said Jason McCarty, the tribe’s public affairs liaison. “They don’t tell us how (donations) can be spent,” Harwell said. “It’s just to help problem gamblers.” ‘Half a drop in the bucket’ for addiction treatment Under Oklahoma’s 2004 model gaming compact, tribes pay the state anywhere from 4 to 10 percent of gaming revenue for exclusive rights to operate casinos. For 2018, exclusivity fees totaled nearly $139 million. Most of that money goes to two state accounts: the education reform fund and the general revenue fund. But $250,000 comes off the top of that amount and goes to the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services to assist with gambling addiction treatment. Rick Brinkley, a former state senator who served prison time for embezzling at least $1.8 million from Tulsa’s Better Business Bureau, said $250,000 is hardly “half a drop in the bucket” of what is required to treat those with gambling problems in Oklahoma. “I can almost guarantee you that any embezzlement case — or the greatest majority of embezzlement cases — filed in the state are tied to gambling,” Brinkley said. “And so the taxpayers are picking up the tab for trials and for prosecutions and for incarceration.” Harwell’s nonprofit is contracted with the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services. The department is a “safety net” organization that helps low-income citizens get treatment, said ODMHSAS public information officer Jeff Dismukes. The $250,000 allocated to state addiction services is sparse, Harwell said. But he and Morgan say it’s a legislative issue, not a tribal compact issue. “The state Legislature always has the ability to go back to adjust those monies in their capacity as the policy makers,” Morgan said. Donelle Harder, Oklahoma deputy secretary of state, said the problem is bigger than just gambling. “On a broad scope, we have a lot of addiction issues in the state of Oklahoma, not just gambling,” she said. “We are top in the country for drug addiction. I think you have to get down to the root of the matter, and really also address it from a holistic perspective of mental health overall.” ‘If you don’t get help, you just lose so many things’ Sheryl Zuker, 55, lives in eastern Oklahoma and said she goes to casinos once or twice a month. She thinks the gaming industry does well at promoting addiction resources. When casinos send her promotional mail, she said information about problem gambling is always featured. “(Casinos) give you the opportunity to get help if you need it,” Zuker said. Link to comment
funhusker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, HUSKER 37 said: I never understood why people would bet anything other than sexual favors on a sporting event..Especially one with a prolate spheroid shaped ball. I still wonder if Dr. Tom ever suspected if Fryer dropped that one pass on purpose. Maybe I need to find a cuter bookie.... 2 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, HUSKER 37 said: I still wonder if Dr. Tom ever suspected if Fryer dropped that one pass on purpose. Thank goodness for Jeff Smith but the next play.... Link to comment
HUSKER 37 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Thank goodness for Jeff Smith but the next play.... I can't remember if my girlfriend took the points...we were too upset to collect on the bet for over an hour. 1 Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, TGHusker said: Tom has a right to an opinion like everyone else. Let him speak. He does, and can; that doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than anyone else's on the subject. 1 Link to comment
Toe Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Has Ron Brown chimed in yet? Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If you live in Nebraska you can do Draft Kings can't you? If so, that is the fantasy side of bets where you choose individual players, let alone betting the team. I live in Iowa and it was a great day once sports betting was approved. Link to comment
RedSavage Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 TO should've stuck to coaching. He should keep his opinion on pretty much everything else to himself Link to comment
Fru Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Cdog923 said: ....Tom Osborne needs to stay home when it comes to legislation: https://www.omaha.com/news/state_and_regional/tom-osborne-testifies-against-gambling-bills-senator-says-nebraska-losing/article_7de6b464-2a16-5716-835d-541fa3227482.html To be fair, TO has some credible experience with legislation. I’m with Tom on this one. The social cost of gambling far outweighs any “lost revenue.” Link to comment
NUance Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, funhusker said: From Osborne: “Most of the really unpleasant interactions I had with fans were people who had lost a bet,” Gambling is happening and it's not going away. And it is happening at a high enough rate that significant taxes could be collected. I don't even get why this is a "debate". I have an uncle who used to be a big time sports bettor many years ago. He sat next to T.O. on a commercial flight one time when Tom was still coaching. Tom was friendly with him at the beginning of the flight. Then my uncle tried to explain how important it was for Tom to go ahead kick those field goals late in the game it it'd put them over the point-spread. T.O. quit talking to him after that and immersed himself in a magazine. I suspect that was one of T.O.'s unpleasant fan interactions. lol 1 Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Fru said: To be fair, TO has some credible experience with legislation. I’m with Tom on this one. The social cost of gambling far outweighs any “lost revenue.” Honesty question: what is your opinion on the social costs of alcohol and tobacco? 1 Link to comment
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