The season was canceled because, despite five months to work things out, the Big Ten had no plan for player safety

[commando]

i may be way off base here....but i think the football season being cancelled is more due to our country wide failure to control this pandemic rather than anything the B1G did or didn't do.  

[84HuskerLaw]

Another issue that seems to trouble me is this.  The NCAA sets limits on number of competitions a school may have in each sport each year.   So, unless the NCAA changes those rules and many others (scholarships limits, eligibility, ages etc) just for Big Ten and Pac 12 (rest are still playing in 2020), all Big Ten players including NU athletes are losing this year eligibility.   They cant play two seasons in one year as that violates the annual max.  

Therefore, it appears the Big Ten is just BSing about spring play.  They cant play two seasons in same year.  As Big Ten wont qualify under NCAA new virus eligibility

rule,  Huskers are just screwed big-time. 

[Bledred]

28 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Another issue that seems to trouble me is this.  The NCAA sets limits on number of competitions a school may have in each sport each year.   So, unless the NCAA changes those rules and many others (scholarships limits, eligibility, ages etc) just for Big Ten and Pac 12 (rest are still playing in 2020), all Big Ten players including NU athletes are losing this year eligibility.   They cant play two seasons in one year as that violates the annual max.  

Therefore, it appears the Big Ten is just BSing about spring play.  They cant play two seasons in same year.  As Big Ten wont qualify under NCAA new virus eligibility

rule,  Huskers are just screwed big-time. 

If this turns out to be true OR IF we do not play a season in the spring while the Big 12, ACC, and SEC all play a full season this fall, than it will go down as one of the largest failures in the history of college athletics.  Billions in revenue will be lost by Big Ten and Pac 12 schools and states.  You can bet your a** that both the Big Ten and the PAC 12 will be getting new leadership soon after. 

[zeWilbur]

1 hour ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Another issue that seems to trouble me is this.  The NCAA sets limits on number of competitions a school may have in each sport each year.   So, unless the NCAA changes those rules and many others (scholarships limits, eligibility, ages etc) just for Big Ten and Pac 12 (rest are still playing in 2020), all Big Ten players including NU athletes are losing this year eligibility.   They cant play two seasons in one year as that violates the annual max.  

Therefore, it appears the Big Ten is just BSing about spring play.  They cant play two seasons in same year.  As Big Ten wont qualify under NCAA new virus eligibility

rule,  Huskers are just screwed big-time. 

 

The NCAA calendar rolls over in August, not January, as it is based around the school year. Getting the NCAA to reclassify football as a "spring" sport for one year could be possible but they would have to redefine all of the critical dates and everyone would have to be on the same page. That ship has sailed.

 

My guess is that the Big 10 and PAC 10 players sue the NCAA for an extra year for circumstances out of their control when they participate in zero games.

[JJ Husker]

3 hours ago, commando said:

i may be way off base here....but i think the football season being cancelled is more due to our country wide failure to control this pandemic rather than anything the B1G did or didn't do.  

Well those things are not mutually exclusive. Yes, football getting cancelled definitely is mostly owed to our country wide failure to address the problem. But, it’s also obvious that the conference either didn’t put in much work to try to salvage the season or the potential liability just made them too skittish. I’ve also gotten the sense that the B1G leadership wants to be perceived as leaders and trendsetters rather than followers. So it’s also possible that when a few of the littles cancelled, followed by the MAC, they wanted to be seen as leading the way for the P5. It was looking quite inevitable but that sword cuts two ways if a few others manage to play. This is why they should’ve put in the work and developed protocols to deal with it. It doesn’t appear they did that. If the SEC, ACC and BigXII make it work, Warren has to be cut loose. In fact, it wouldn’t be a bad decision to dump him now just for being first and not having a plan. Hell, we bailed before even the PAC and we all know what wussies they are.

[84HuskerLaw]

18 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Nebraska is one of the richest schools in the country. If they can't sustain it for 1 season (or 1 postponed season), fine, do whatever they can to not go under. But I find it unlikely that's the scenario we're facing. So yes, it's extremely stupid and risky to piss off the conference for 1 fraction of a season.

 

It's going to take a long time but we can recover from 1 lost season. Leaving the B1G or risking getting kicked out would likely be a disaster.

Nebraska was financially better run than most other programs.  Rich?  Hardly.  Not anymore.  

 

Somebody can probably dig up the numbers on how much extra money NU has gained by being a Big Ten member above what we would have received from staying in the Big 12 but this 100 million loss will wipe out a big chunk.  Going forward - who knows what may result but the Big Ten is going to take a massive hit for years to come.   Lets hope Big Ten leaders do better than they have with this problem.  

Its is a very, very, very complex and difficult situation but that is why these people get the big bucks.  

 

I dont see how they play spring football as chances are very high that the virus will be with us for a long time.  At this point, 2021 is in significant doubt if the prerequisite is no virus worries.

[Omaha fan]

9 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

Well those things are not mutually exclusive. Yes, football getting cancelled definitely is mostly owed to our country wide failure to address the problem. But, it’s also obvious that the conference either didn’t put in much work to try to salvage the season or the potential liability just made them too skittish. I’ve also gotten the sense that the B1G leadership wants to be perceived as leaders and trendsetters rather than followers. So it’s also possible that when a few of the littles cancelled, followed by the MAC, they wanted to be seen as leading the way for the P5. It was looking quite inevitable but that sword cuts two ways if a few others manage to play. This is why they should’ve put in the work and developed protocols to deal with it. It doesn’t appear they did that. If the SEC, ACC and BigXII make it work, Warren has to be cut loose. In fact, it wouldn’t be a bad decision to dump him now just for being first and not having a plan. Hell, we bailed before even the PAC and we all know what wussies they are.

Warren is untouchable, he is the next one in line to run the nfl. In today’s climate, consider him made of Teflon. 
 

Listening to moos last night was great. Nebraska did an outstanding job of preparing protocols to safely get through the season. According to moos Nebraska could have wrote the book on how to do so. Warren and the big10 had nothing in place, had no intentions of even trying to put a season together.

 

Im very proud of how Nebraska handled this and tried to make it work. Frost and moos played the only cards we could play. At the end, we did what we had to do, smiled and with a wink and a  nod, with our fingers crossed behind our back, said we would support the conference. 

[knapplc]

2 minutes ago, Omaha fan said:

Nebraska did an outstanding job of preparing protocols to safely get through the season. According to moos Nebraska could have wrote the book on how to do so.

 

And that did not come at an insignificant cost. Which is another reason they were so pissed about the rest of the league not being ready.

[Omaha fan]

This is why Brohm and Day came out with detailed plans this week on how to conduct a spring season.

 

Since it’s obvious Warren isn’t going to plan or the dog keeps eating his homework, it’s up to others to do his work. The coaches in the conference. 

 

Maybe this board could do his work for him and come up with a detailed plan? 

[In the Deed the Glory]

43 minutes ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Nebraska was financially better run than most other programs.  Rich?  Hardly.  Not anymore.  

 

Somebody can probably dig up the numbers on how much extra money NU has gained by being a Big Ten member above what we would have received from staying in the Big 12 but this 100 million loss will wipe out a big chunk.  Going forward - who knows what may result but the Big Ten is going to take a massive hit for years to come.   Lets hope Big Ten leaders do better than they have with this problem.  

Its is a very, very, very complex and difficult situation but that is why these people get the big bucks.  

 

I dont see how they play spring football as chances are very high that the virus will be with us for a long time.  At this point, 2021 is in significant doubt if the prerequisite is no virus worries.

 

Just not accurate.

[Omaha fan]

Nebraska nets up about $14,000,000 per year more to the athletic department thanks to Jim Delaney and the btn tv deal. However we only got partial shares early on. My guess is we are upside down on the calculation thanks to this years big loss. 

 

Im as pissed as anyone about how Warren and the big10 responded to this. But with what the big10 brings to the university academically and research wise, there is zero chance we are going anywhere. It is what it  is

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/davidching/2018/04/17/big-tens-rights-deal-threatens-to-widen-financial-gap-between-even-the-biggest-conferences/amp/

[84HuskerLaw]

13 minutes ago, In the Deed the Glory said:

 

Just not accurate.

Define rich.   Rich is assets.  Revenues exceeded expenses by about 10% in recent years.  Over decades, the Athletic Dept managed to accumulate a ‘rainy

day’ fund of roughly 60 million about the time TO ended as Director.  I recall a report that amount was roughly still available.  That fund was for unexpected but foreseeable events.  While this is certainly one of those, obviously it is a hurricane not a rainy day.  

To be rich, NU would need about 300 million in reserves by any reasonable definition.  From what is generally reported, many programs around the country rely on big taxpayer subsidies to operate annually.   At this point, there arent many States with big budget surpluses to just kick a 100 million extra to shore up non-functioning athletic depts.  

[JJ Husker]

..."unexpected but foreseeable events"... ? Do you have an example of a foreseeable unexpected event? I'm curious to learn.

[WyoHusker56]

1 hour ago, Omaha fan said:

This is why Brohm and Day came out with detailed plans this week on how to conduct a spring season.

 

Since it’s obvious Warren isn’t going to plan or the dog keeps eating his homework, it’s up to others to do his work. The coaches in the conference. 

 

Maybe this board could do his work for him and come up with a detailed plan? 

 

This is what makes me so bad. Jeff Brohm and Ryan Day who are football coaches trying to lead their teams have managed to come out with realistic schedules and in Brohm's case incredibly detailed. Yet the B1G hasn't released a single detail other than saying "spring season" without a mention of if that means a January start, March start or how many games nothing. What does everyone do over there on a regular basis?

[Undone]

9 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

 

This is what makes me so bad. Jeff Brohm and Ryan Day who are football coaches trying to lead their teams have managed to come out with realistic schedules and in Brohm's case incredibly detailed. Yet the B1G hasn't released a single detail other than saying "spring season" without a mention of if that means a January start, March start or how many games nothing. What does everyone do over there on a regular basis?

 

It's kind of a satisfying & subtle shaming of Warren & his office's incompetence.