FrantzHardySwag Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, ZRod said: When you literally have the toughest schedule in FBS and lose 3 games to soon to be top 10 teams by a score each, and have 2 more potential top 5 teams to play. So we lost to Illinois because we played good teams? All I’ve said is 6 wins should be the minimum expectation and being cool with 4-5 win is dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: So we lost to Illinois because we played good teams? All I’ve said is 6 wins should be the minimum expectation and being cool with 4-5 win is dumb. Nobody is "cool" with 4 to 5 wins. Literally Nobody. Illinois was an anomalie compared to every game since then. This team would shred Illinois if they played again, I'd bet my life savings on it. Doesn't excuse the loss, but if you can't see a difference between now and then you're ignoring it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
CheeseHusker Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Great grammar. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Redux said: I'd like our chances against Wisconsin if it weren't Wisconsin We should be ok. We out match them at every position. Probably Chryst's worst team to date. We should win out in our division. Iowa is not as good as Michigan, so we have that too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
KazLong Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: So we lost to Illinois because we played good teams? All I’ve said is 6 wins should be the minimum expectation and being cool with 4-5 win is dumb. I would agree with that 10 years ago. However where are we as a team? As a brand? If we could hire a Pelini again and turn things around overnight great. Otherwise we deal with what we have. Frost is dealing with a Riley brand team. LSU just lost (blown out) to Kentucky - imagine their fan base. 1 Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redux said: Nobody is "cool" with 4 to 5 wins. Literally Nobody. Illinois was an anomalie compared to every game since then. This team would shred Illinois if they played again, I'd bet my life savings on it. Doesn't excuse the loss, but if you can't see a difference between now and then you're ignoring it. That’s the post I was responding to… who said literally that. That’s a s#!tty measuring stick. I’m not saying fire frost, but if you want me to believe in progress, 6 wins this year is where it starts. I’ll start believing in these moral victories if we go 3-2 down the stretch. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, KazLong said: I would agree with that 10 years ago. However where are we as a team? As a brand? If we could hire a Pelini again and turn things around overnight great. Otherwise we deal with what we have. Frost is dealing with a Riley brand team. LSU just lost (blown out) to Kentucky - imagine their fan base. The Riley excuse doesn't hold water anymore. This is all Frost's team now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ZRod said: We should be ok. We out match them at every position. Probably Chryst's worst team to date. We should win out in our division. Iowa is not as good as Michigan, so we have that too. Eaisly their worst team. That's only reason I'm scared, they'll have nothing to lose because a division title isn't on the line. Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, KazLong said: I would agree with that 10 years ago. However where are we as a team? As a brand? If we could hire a Pelini again and turn things around overnight great. Otherwise we deal with what we have. Frost is dealing with a Riley brand team. LSU just lost (blown out) to Kentucky - imagine their fan base. So you’re cool if we finish this year 5-7? Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: That’s the post I was responding to… who said literally that. That’s a s#!tty measuring stick. I’m not saying fire frost, but if you want me to believe in progress, 6 wins this year is where it starts. I’ll start believing in these moral victories if we go 3-2 down the stretch. Hung with #5OU til the bitter end, led #20MSU and lost in OT, led #9Michigan twice and gave them their first time trailing and QB's 1st interception. Moral victories, yes. Signs of actual verifiable progress, yes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, FrantzHardySwag said: So you’re cool if we finish this year 5-7? Regardless of our final record this is a damn good team and Frost will be here for a loooong time Enjoy your evening. 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Stone Cold Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 no its not time to fire him 2 Quote Link to comment
KazLong Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, ZRod said: The Riley excuse doesn't hold water anymore. This is all Frost's team now. Not as an excuse. I just mean, as a brand. That matters when recruiting. The question is coaching kids up. Pelini could coach kids up and get 9 wins every season. Another Great Coach Belichick would take dumpster picks like tom brady 6th or 7th round and win 5 or 6 super bowls. These Kids weren't alive when we were world beaters. How do many do we send to the NFL - less than Iowa. Less than OSU. We send less then most of the other 'power' programs, if we are even one anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Redux said: Hung with #5OU til the bitter end, led #20MSU and lost in OT, led #9Michigan twice and gave them their first time trailiny and QB interception. Moral victories, yes. Signs of actual verifiable progress, yes. So if we go 2-1 against minny, Purdue and Wisconsin and lose to OSU/Iowa - you’re good with that. This is healthy for me, I need to know I have a unrealistic expectation of this program. 1 Quote Link to comment
KazLong Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: So you’re cool if we finish this year 5-7? No but who do we hire? Quote Link to comment
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