Expectations Tangent Thread

[The Dude]

I'm guessing there's about a 40% chance Raiola pans out and is everything we hope for him to be.  In which case I'd be more worried about another big money school poaching him next year rather than the NFL draft years later.

[Moiraine]

Do you guys remember when we used to argue about whether it was good or bad that Nebraska scored fast when Taylor Martinez was the QB? I hope we can argue about that again soon.

[GSG]

35 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

Do you guys remember when we used to argue about whether it was good or bad that Nebraska scored fast when Taylor Martinez was the QB? I hope we can argue about that again soon.

 

 

[Moiraine]

37 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

 

 

 

Well, it happened constantly. People said the offense was too inconsistent.

[MyBloodIsRed16]

1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

Do you guys remember when we used to argue about whether it was good or bad that Nebraska scored fast when Taylor Martinez was the QB? I hope we can argue about that again soon.

I remember arguing about going 3 and out too fast.  Not scoring too fast

[GSG]

12 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Well, it happened constantly. People said the offense was too inconsistent.

 

 

Lol. I do kinda remember that. I was just messing with you

[ChubbaWubba]

On 12/18/2023 at 5:18 AM, Scarlet said:

Nobody in the history of the college game was a "far better" QB than Frazier.  In fact his equals are few and far between.  Are you saying Raiola will guide the Huskers to two national titles and come up just short on a third due to some horrific officiating and a duck hook FG attempt to win that one?  

 

If your metric is simply the throwing the ball skill set and not everything else a QB is responsible for then we can come up with a long list of QBs that can throw the ball better than Frazier and yet never even won a conference championship.  

Oh sorry I forgot it only took one player to get national titles. Not an insane defense, greatest head coach possibly ever, great depth and a great Offensive line. Frazier  49.5 percent pass completion career must have been a great overall QB. He was a RB taking snaps period. He did his damage on the ground behind a great offensive line. Raiola will do great behind an average line and with average receivers, but it takes an entire team to win titles.

[brophog]

20 minutes ago, ChubbaWubba said:

49.5 percent pass completion career must have been a great overall QB

 

The NFL passer completion formula was supposed to show a top QB at 100, not 158.3. In 1971, when the formula was created it was derived using then current statistics and those statistics made 100 a great score.

 

The big difference between then and now is because completion percentage is double figured into the formula because the equation includes both a completion percentage and yards per attempt component. As teams styles changed to include more short passes, the completion percentage went up, and since it's more or less counted twice, it had a great impact on the scores.

 

Back in Nebraska's heyday, running backs from the school were often discounted as pass catchers, because essentially, they were never thrown to in that offense. It's not without its irony that Roger Craig and Ahman Green are arguably two of the very best West Coast Offense running backs, playing a system that commonly threw to its backs.

 

49.5% is not the same in that offense, in that era, as it is in the modern game. Frazier ranks #2 in Big Eight history for passing TD's and #1 in TDs Responsible for.

[JJ Husker]

24 minutes ago, brophog said:

 

The NFL passer completion formula was supposed to show a top QB at 100, not 158.3. In 1971, when the formula was created it was derived using then current statistics and those statistics made 100 a great score.

 

The big difference between then and now is because completion percentage is double figured into the formula because the equation includes both a completion percentage and yards per attempt component. As teams styles changed to include more short passes, the completion percentage went up, and since it's more or less counted twice, it had a great impact on the scores.

 

Back in Nebraska's heyday, running backs from the school were often discounted as pass catchers, because essentially, they were never thrown to in that offense. It's not without its irony that Roger Craig and Ahman Green are arguably two of the very best West Coast Offense running backs, playing a system that commonly threw to its backs.

 

49.5% is not the same in that offense, in that era, as it is in the modern game. Frazier ranks #2 in Big Eight history for passing TD's and #1 in TDs Responsible for.

Very good explanation